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Old 11-01-2008, 01:04 AM   #1
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READ THIS ARTICLE FROM http://www.thecoastalpassage.com.au/index.html"THE COASTAL PASSAGE" MORE GESTAPO TACTICS FROM AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS. !!!
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READ THIS ARTICLE FROM http://www.thecoastalpassage.com.au/index.html"THE COASTAL PASSAGE" MORE GESTAPO TACTICS FROM AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS. !!!
I have read both the report as well as the appeal and this seems crazy, but the workings of bureaucracy does not surprise me. However we should not loose sight of the fact that there are always 3 sides to the story. (each side's interpretation and what actually transpired) My take on the law today seems that it has little to do with the legality of the matter, it is more about winning and loosing, and there is little regard for who gets trampled in the process.

Comments from those that have cruised to Australia would be very interesting. I am reluctant to change my cruising plans to exclude Australia as I have at least 10 members of my family there, but at the same time it may just be prudent to sail to a nearby country and simply fly in, which defeats the propose of cruising in my opinion. I do have also have family in New Zealand so sailing to NZ and then flying over to Australia would be an alternative.

As I am a gun owning citizen (without starting any gun / firearm debates) I would also like to hear from those who have landed with firearms. We would be headed out of Darwin if and when we ever get to Australia, so in your guys opinions would it be prudent to clear customs (entry as well as exit) there as well?

Lastly I have read that pet quarantine is 90 days (may have changed since I read the article), anyone have experience and the costs involved with that.
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As I am a gun owning citizen (without starting any gun / firearm debates) I would also like to hear from those who have landed with firearms. We would be headed out of Darwin if and when we ever get to Australia, so in your guys opinions would it be prudent to clear customs (entry as well as exit) there as well?

Lastly I have read that pet quarantine is 90 days (may have changed since I read the article), anyone have experience and the costs involved with that.
You will find all your answers on the official website HERE.

I personally would not take a pet to Australia.
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It's been more than ten years since we last entered Australia, and both times we had simple and easy clearance, though Customs wouldn't verify its rules. The published rules said that USDA inspected canned beef could be brought into the country, but they confiscated all our USDA approved dried beef because it wasn't in "cans" but rather glass jars (which is how all foods were "canned" back in the days, and how dried beef is still "canned" due to its high salt content). As one Oz TV commentator said, "two cultures divided by a common language." Nothing I said could make them check and verify that "canned" foods need not necessarily be in metal cans.

Their posted rules prohibit the import of canned pork products, so that emergency ration of SPAM had to be eaten or discarded before arriving in Australia. And lo and behold, I found US imported SPAM and various canned hams for sale in Australia. Nobody could explain that to me.

Australia seems to have bipolar disorder. For several years before we first sailed to Australia, Australia required that foreign yachts affix a sign to their topsides with their clearance number (exact description of this is fuzzy after all these years). It was intended to be visible to the flyover planes as well as observers from the shore. To properly fulfill Customs requirements meant defacing the boat. This was insisted upon by Oz officials for years.

Then there's the 72-hour prior notice of arrival into Oz waters, which caused extreme financial hardship to at least one boat because the Oz Embassy in the country where they obtained their visa was unaware of it and provided a printed incorrect procedure. Australia refused to admit their error and unreasonable prosecution of a visiting yacht in that instance.

We like Australians, but found the government and politics were often silly, but stupid at its worst (though I could say the same about many other countries' politics, including the US). The difference seems to be our US courts will usually stomp on the stupidest of our civil servants' errors and consider extenuating circumstances, whereas in Australia the courts seem to feel that visitors to their shores should know when Australian officials have given them bad information and will punish them anyway. No such thing as extenuating circumstances.

Now for guns. You would be foolish to enter in Darwin, it's a difficult place to get to from the rest of the South Pacific, and once there you could be stuck for the entire cyclone season and then would have to extend your visa for another year in order to do any cruising of Australia. But Australia is the least of your problems. At least in Australia, if they remove the guns from your boat in Brisbane or Bundaberg, they'll ship them to Darwin for you to receive them to check out. You might not be so fortunate in many of the other countries you visit - you'd have to go back to the entry port in order to check out and get your gun(s).

Friends of ours almost got thrown in jail for not declaring their gun upon arrival in Fiji, and that was before the two military coups in Fiji. Nowadays to be caught with undeclared firearms in Fiji would most likely be even worse, what with a military regime uneasy about its hold over the citizens and the fear of an armed uprising facilitated by smuggled firearms.

Dogs. See the downloadable information package for importing dogs and cats into Australia. The information assumes the animal will come by air, so perhaps further info. is necessary, but it's an expensive and long process. Import of animals into Australia, info. package

Application fee (all in Australian dollars): $330.00 Entry fees - quarantine entry, veterinary inspection and document clearance: $113.00

Quarantine accomodation fee: $17.55 per day while in quarantine (food and board for between 30 and 120 days).

there can be other fees as well.
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they (customs) now require 96 hours notice of arrival !!!!!
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As I am a gun owning citizen (without starting any gun / firearm debates) I would also like to hear from those who have landed with firearms. We would be headed out of Darwin if and when we ever get to Australia, so in your guys opinions would it be prudent to clear customs (entry as well as exit) there as well?
Hi Gavin,

My reading of the law pertaining to category C firearm importation in Australia is that it is permissible when the firearm is in transit to another country. Category C firearm are these types and no others :-

Self-loading rim-fire rifle without a firearm magazine or fitted

with a magazine of a capacity no greater than ten (10) rounds

IE : .22 rifles

Restricted Category C Firearms

• self-loading shotgun without a firearm magazine or fitted with

a magazine of a capacity of not greater than five (5) rounds

• pump action repeating shotgun without a firearm magazine

or fitted with a firearm magazine of a capacity no greater than

five (5) rounds.

IE:- The Winchester Stainless Steel #71 pump action 12 guage.



Whatever, it appears to be mandatory that permission is received from the relevant authorities PRIOR to the temporary importation of the above category.

Here is the specific regulation - click HERE

As far as Australian Customs are concerned - the best advice is :- Communicate, Get Permission and Guidance - Communicate, Get Permission and Guidance - Communicate, Get Permission and Guidance.

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