Go Back   Cruiser Log World Cruising & Sailing Forums > Cruising Forums > General Cruising Forum
Cruiser Wiki

Join Cruiser Log Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-22-2013, 06:43 PM   #15
Ensign
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auzzee View Post
Love the classics. The Kettenburg looks as though it could have come from the same mould as mine. Although mine is dutch built in steel.
Cruiser Log World Cruising & Sailing Forums - Auzzee's Album: Sandettie - Picture
Sandettie is beautiful the Dutch really know how to work steel. The wood boat is nice and that Kettenburg is supposed to be sheathed in epoxy but you just can't beat a properly made steel hull.

Whats the specs on your boat it looks like a wider beam than the eight foot wide Kettenburg?
__________________

__________________
Guest2013a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 07:17 PM   #16
Moderator
 
redbopeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Home Port: Washington DC
Vessel Name: SV Mahdee
Posts: 3,186
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhylton View Post
Are you still sailing the pre-war wood boat that you wrote about? To sail what you call the wrong way around the cape you need a boat that points good to the wind. Does your boat sail good windward?
Yes, and yes she sails wonderfully to windward. Fine entry, cutaway forekeel, and much less windage than today's cruising boats. The particular boat was built for cruising, btw.

PS--the Kettenburg boats are lightly built and wonderful for racing. Not the best in terms of space/weight capacity for cruising but certainly a pretty boat. They were built in San Diego and there's a very experienced boatwright there at Koeler Kraft with experience restoring or modifying them for additional racing.
__________________

__________________
"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda

What we're doing - The sailing life aboard and the Schooner Chandlery.

redbopeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2013, 02:19 AM   #17
Admiral
 
Auzzee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
Posts: 1,727
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhylton View Post
Sandettie is beautiful the Dutch really know how to work steel. The wood boat is nice and that Kettenburg is supposed to be sheathed in epoxy but you just can't beat a properly made steel hull.

Whats the specs on your boat it looks like a wider beam than the eight foot wide Kettenburg?
37'6" LOD, 11'6" across the beam and with a moulded depth amidships of 9'6". Built in 1963, she sailed in several Fastnet races before the owner was transferred to Malta by the UK Government. There, he devised the Middle Sea Challenge. She won one, placed in a further five out of a total 14 starts.

She flies with one rail awash and that make me grin like an idiot.
__________________
"if at first you don't succeed....Redefine success"!


Auzzee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2013, 01:24 AM   #18
Ensign
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Default

[QUOTE=Auzzee;39622]37'6" LOD, 11'6" across the beam and with a moulded depth amidships of 9'6". Built in 1963, she sailed in several Fastnet races before the owner was transferred to Malta by the UK Government. There, he devised the Middle Sea Challenge. She won one, placed in a further five out of a total 14 starts.

She flies with one rail awash and that make me grin like an idiot.[/QUOTE

The info I am reading says a racing boat like yours should point between 30 to 40 degrees from the wind direction. A cruising boat might only get between 40 and 50 degrees from the wind direction.

Along the Oregon coast the wind is dominate blowing south along the coast so sailing north you need to go west first and then take a right.
__________________
Guest2013a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2013, 03:37 AM   #19
Admiral
 
Auzzee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
Posts: 1,727
Default

After I spend some time in the Sea of Cortez and south along the coast of the isthmus to some of the South American countries, I will once again sally forth across the big blue. The likelihood of sailing in the Pacific Northwest is remote indeed.

However, as a lifelong lover of the motorcycling lifestyle, it is my firm intention to ride from Seattle to San Diego within the next 12 months. So many friends and aquaintances, have given me to believe it is a wonderful trip.

I often wonder what I would do if the god of having a load of fun, presented me with a choice between riding and sailing. I honestly don't know which I would ultimately choose. Thankfully, for the moment I am able to indulge myself in both pursuits.
__________________
"if at first you don't succeed....Redefine success"!


Auzzee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 12:30 AM   #20
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Home Port: the boat
Vessel Name: Skipping Stone
Posts: 79
Default

An ex-bareboat can be a very bad purchase. There are innumerable things which could be wrong that even the best surveyor cannot detect. Bareboat fleet operators may have mediocre mechanics, electricians and riggers, but their cosmetic glass repair people are some of the best in the industry. I have seen and heard of people who have gotten into ex-bareboats only to end up with a vessel that is absolutely worthless after serious faults were found.
There are, on the other hand numerous cruising boats here in the Caribbean, that for one reason or another, are for sale at an extremely reasonable price that have never been bareboats. Perhaps the owner ran out of money, couldn't afford a new motor, had a death in the family, became ill themselves or their partner just didn't like sailing.
However, if it is your intention to use the boat in the PNW, the voyage from the Caribbean to the PNW is not for the faint of heart. I would not do that delivery for less than 20 or 25 grand, ALL expenses on top of that figure.
Many of us are cruising 20 to 30 year old quality boats. Of course there are maintenance issues, but that will not necessarily be untrue of a more modern, lower quality vessel.
I suggest you look through a Caribbean Compass, our local monthly newspaper, and check out what's available here.
Good luck with whatever path you choose.
__________________
"Any a**hole can make a boat go; it takes a sailor to stop one"
Spike Africa, aboard the Schooner Wanderer, Sausalito, Ca. 1964
www.skippingstonesailing.com
facebook.com/svskippingstone
capta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 12:59 AM   #21
Ensign
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auzzee View Post
After I spend some time in the Sea of Cortez and south along the coast of the isthmus to some of the South American countries, I will once again sally forth across the big blue. The likelihood of sailing in the Pacific Northwest is remote indeed.

However, as a lifelong lover of the motorcycling lifestyle, it is my firm intention to ride from Seattle to San Diego within the next 12 months. So many friends and aquaintances, have given me to believe it is a wonderful trip.

I often wonder what I would do if the god of having a load of fun, presented me with a choice between riding and sailing. I honestly don't know which I would ultimately choose. Thankfully, for the moment I am able to indulge myself in both pursuits.
I suggest that you stick to sailing. I too love riding motorcycles but as you get older the reflexes are not as good as they once were. The eyesight is not as good and many older bike riders get in trouble. There is a lot of traffic in California and its not road that you are familiar with. It just takes one bad driver to cut in front of you or make a left hand turn and you are in trouble.
I don't even like to drive a car in California traffic. If I was to take a motorcycle ride it would be across Canada and through Bamff not California.
__________________
Guest2013a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 01:28 AM   #22
Admiral
 
Auzzee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
Posts: 1,727
Default

I am not, as yet in my dotage!
__________________
"if at first you don't succeed....Redefine success"!


Auzzee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 07:57 AM   #23
Ensign
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by capta View Post
An ex-bareboat can be a very bad purchase. There are innumerable things which could be wrong that even the best surveyor cannot detect. Bareboat fleet operators may have mediocre mechanics, electricians and riggers, but their cosmetic glass repair people are some of the best in the industry. I have seen and heard of people who have gotten into ex-bareboats only to end up with a vessel that is absolutely worthless after serious faults were found.
There are, on the other hand numerous cruising boats here in the Caribbean, that for one reason or another, are for sale at an extremely reasonable price that have never been bareboats. Perhaps the owner ran out of money, couldn't afford a new motor, had a death in the family, became ill themselves or their partner just didn't like sailing.
However, if it is your intention to use the boat in the PNW, the voyage from the Caribbean to the PNW is not for the faint of heart. I would not do that delivery for less than 20 or 25 grand, ALL expenses on top of that figure.
Many of us are cruising 20 to 30 year old quality boats. Of course there are maintenance issues, but that will not necessarily be untrue of a more modern, lower quality vessel.
I suggest you look through a Caribbean Compass, our local monthly newspaper, and check out what's available here.
Good luck with whatever path you choose.
Actually just walking the beach in the PNW is dangerous. Every year people get swept away by waves. The water is cold and you don't last very long in the water. A couple of years ago a man took his bride-to-be a young girl from the Philippians to the beach to per-pose to her. A big wave came in and he lost his grip on her hand. He saw her being pulled to sea and he pulled his sweater off over his head to go after her. But the next time he looked she was gone and he never saw her again. Don't turn your back on the Pacific Ocean at the Oregon coast.

It used to be called "the grave yard of the Pacific" but now with GPS navigation there are not many boats and ships that end up on the beach or the rocks.

I do not intend to go back there and play around in the PNW there are places to sail in the north Puget sound and all the way to Alaska on the inland passage but it cold there.

Your boat a Pearson 53 looks like it is a deep draft heavy boat do you have problems with the deep draft? The bar at Rio Dulce Guatemala is only five or six feet at high tide.
__________________
Guest2013a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2013, 10:15 PM   #24
Ensign
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by capta View Post
An ex-bareboat can be a very bad purchase. There are innumerable things which could be wrong that even the best surveyor cannot detect. Bareboat fleet operators may have mediocre mechanics, electricians and riggers, but their cosmetic glass repair people are some of the best in the industry. I have seen and heard of people who have gotten into ex-bareboats only to end up with a vessel that is absolutely worthless after serious faults were found.
.
Serious problems with a boat that you can't see, touch or feel that even the best surveyor cannot detect sounds kind of spooky. Maybe I should hire a psychic to find the problems.

How about this one. http://www.yachtworld.com/privatelab...slim=pp237992&
__________________
Guest2013a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 01:46 AM   #25
Ensign
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Home Port: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 35
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhylton View Post
Serious problems with a boat that you can't see, touch or feel that even the best surveyor cannot detect sounds kind of spooky. Maybe I should hire a psychic to find the problems.

How about this one. Moorings Yacht Brokerage (Dania Beach, FL)
I asked a similar question awhile back:
http://www.cruiserlog.com/forums/f12/beneteau-7714.html
__________________
Cowboy Cruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 10:42 AM   #26
Ensign
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboy Cruiser View Post
I asked a similar question awhile back:
http://www.cruiserlog.com/forums/f12/beneteau-7714.html
So what is your point Cowboy?
__________________
Guest2013a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 10:58 AM   #27
Ensign
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Home Port: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 35
Default

The post contains feedback on the same series of Beneteau boats as you requested feedback on. I though that you were seeking information, if I was incorrect, please disregard it was "pointless"!
__________________
Cowboy Cruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 11:12 AM   #28
Ensign
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboy Cruiser View Post
The post contains feedback on the same series of Beneteau boats as you requested feedback on. I though that you were seeking information, if I was incorrect, please disregard it was "pointless"!
Why don't you post comments about the boat? I am just trying to get a dialog going here. I think its a great deal and I don't believe in "ghost" problems Bigfoot or Santa Claus.
__________________

__________________
Guest2013a is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
boat, bvi, charter


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buying a boat in BVI Jan Lelie Engines | Propulsion | Generators 5 08-28-2012 03:27 PM
buying a boat from tuimarinebrokerage who sells boats from SUNSAIL in BVI Jan Lelie General Cruising Forum 6 08-15-2012 04:44 AM
Who Is Running A Boat Charter Now? avonbusse General Cruising Forum 15 01-01-2011 05:14 PM
New Bvi Boat dtempleton The Tavern | Welcome Aboard 3 12-14-2009 01:50 AM

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0