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Old 04-11-2007, 08:00 PM   #15
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The topic heading is: Is This Story For Real?

Read onto the second part of the story about the prop being stolen. I don't know about you guys, but the idea of bombs going off close enough to get water on my deck, I think a lost prop is the least of my concerns.


Is it for real? (without politics).


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Old 04-11-2007, 10:39 PM   #16
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I have just read the account of IsoKratia entering the port of Aden. As many of you know, I have just spent a year there but I hardly recognise it from the narrative

There are two channels. Many green and red lights. So confusing at night time as to where to go.

In fact, there is only one channel into Aden. Another channel leads into Little Aden, an oil port which can not be confused with Aden itself. There are not many green and red lights as most of them do not work although the green light on the breakwater always seems to and is a very good guide. IMHO, Aden is one of the easiest ports in the world to navigate your way into.

Aden looks different. Is a small port.

I would say that it is a fairly large port. No, it is not Rotterdam but it certainly is as large as say Savannah or Port Elizabeth.

I tried to sweeten them by offering backshish but they still refused. I must note that after one o’clock mid day 95% of them including those still working in government will start chewing Kat.

I would say, especialy those working for the government. Private business still continues.

A strong drug. They claim it to be mild. But by two o’clock I saw people that could not see in front of them. As Sami said, “ they were travelling on the moon”! They will have mattresses on the floor next to their office desks and lay there chewing Kat. Others will just lay on bare concrete anywhere under shade and chew Kat. The whole town gets stoned. So being stoned in Kat they refused to give us fuel.

No, kat is a mild drug. I do not condone it but it is actually so mild that even the UK considers its use legal (and drug laws in the UK are fairly strict). The whole town does not get stoned. People do not get stoned on kat.

It was then that I lost it. I yelled like hell to them. No more Mr nice guy. I then demanded that they either give me my diesel or they give me my money back now.

Yelling does not help!

The big chief instructed the zombies to give us fuel. They did but they cheated us 100 litres.

One of the things I learned very early on in my seagoing career was to check the amount of fuel received tallied with that indicate by the company delivering the fuel. We all learn by our mistakes.

I did not want to go see the ancient town or anything alike.

What ancient town? There are a few relics of the Turkish occupation and a few more of the British but no ancient town????

Night time and if it wasn’t for the electronic navigation screens to show me where I was I would have sank. Many ship wrecks around. One just at the edge of the channel into port. Not surprising with the chaotic green red boys marking the channel

Hmm. The one to port on the way out is clealy visible and marked by a wreck buoy which is lit. It is also immediately adjacent to the buoys the harbour tugs tie up to so you should not be weaving a course through that lot anyway. Also, the position of the wreck is well noted on the charts (having been sunk during the civil war and not having anything to do with "chaotic green red buoys") and anyone at the yacht anchorage would have observed it during daylight hours. It is outside the main fairway too.

The next wreck is outside the breakwater and well out of the channel on the starboard side (on exiting the port). There are no other wrecks in the approaches to Aden although one further wreck exists in Conquest Bay (immediately to the east of Aden). Also a relic from the civil war, this wreck is well on the beach and you should not be there anyway. It is also clearly indicated on BA charts

Maybe the story of isoKratia's visit to Aden is not a fabrication but it apears to me to be a gross exageration.



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Old 04-12-2007, 07:45 AM   #17
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That is a bit rude, don't you think? This is a cruising forum, not a political soapbox. Government by the same? rather than government by the people? It does not belong on this forum.
That may be rude OK I apologize but you have to consider two things: 1. I replayed to someones quote which means that I did not started a political discussion and 2. it was a defense against Manor's post that was "rude" for sure
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:34 PM   #18
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This certainly is a lively debate.

I say that because as cruisers and those that would like to become cruisers, "piracy" is a topic of major concern. Nobody wants to be subjected to such behavior, on land or sea. Our property is our property. We do not want any body messing with it, taking it, stealing it from us, damaging it, or denying our use of it. In some cases that may effect our well-being, livelihood, security and survival. Acknowledged; the topic is important to each of us in some form and to some degree, sometimes; certainly worth study and being knowledgeable about.

As well this topic is so easily steered: I also got caught up in that, by mistake and most unintentionally. My apologies.

Now let’s get back to, and focus on, the topic that Trim50 presented: "Is This Story For Real?"

This is not a court of law, and nobody is on trial here. Nobody is going to "walk the plank", destined for Davy Jones' Locker.

Based on my extensive, and maybe not all-inclusive, on-line research, this story is full of holes, contradicts itself, and seems to me to be very doubtful.

I have been horn-swuagled, hood-winked, fooled, and even had the wool pulled over my eyes a time or two in my lifetime. I may not be the sharpest knife in the galley, but I rub with the hone frequently.

MY BOTTOM LINE on this Topic is:

I think the story contains facts and some truth, but also some embellishment of the story. I think the parts of the plot that the author most wants the reader to believe, and the most exciting parts are the parts that are fabricated.

Further, I think it makes a most interesting entry into the Vessel Log, Documenting the Skipper's Legacy and his Personal Diary, as he wished it would have happened.

I most suspect the "juicy" parts were copied ideas from other literary works, plagiarism, fabrication, and embellished to fit the desires of the author/skipper, as he wished it would have happened.

I maybe wrong, but that is my opinion and perception, based upon what I know now.

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The question was, is, and remains, "Do you really believe this story?"

Or orginally presented as: "Is This Story For Real?"

Without facts, our responses are only our individual opinions and perceptions. I think it is important that we keep that in mind, and respect each others.
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Wow, this one went off in an unexpected direction for a bit

So, I'm guessing "bombs" at night in the harbor is a bit far fetched.

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