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Old 06-04-2011, 03:59 AM   #43
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Another one I like, The bottom one is fine too even if different model and older. 36' Islander Sloop
  • Boat Name: Orion
  • Year: 1978
  • Current Price: US$ 29,999
This one has a lovely set-out inside, I'd be fine on my own, lots of open space to get thrown around in , but I seriously do like it.



36' Islander 36

  • Year: 1973
  • Current Price: US$ 29,500
  • Located in San Diego, CA
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Another one I like, The bottom one is fine too even if different model and older. 36' Islander Sloop
  • Boat Name: Orion
  • Year: 1978
  • Current Price: US$ 29,999
This one has a lovely set-out inside, I'd be fine on my own, lots of open space to get thrown around in , but I seriously do like it.



36' Islander 36

  • Year: 1973
  • Current Price: US$ 29,500
  • Located in San Diego, CA
The First one's engine is a rebuilt in 2001 - not good idea.

Both are on the wrong side of the USA - just getting one back into the Caribbean would leave very little change out of $10,000 US.

If Ruby is a genuine up and up sale - that is the best boat we have seen - It is being advertised by another broker. It sounds too good to be true - and you know what that means.
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Hi everyone, I’m a new member and hopefully about to become a new sailor.

I want to drift round the world, not non-stop or too set records etc, but purely to say I managed it.

I will be solo and live aboard.



I started only looking at 27’-29’ yachts but have since adjusted this to 28’ – 34’ range.

I seriously am going to do this on a shoestring budget as I simply don’t have any other means.

I’m looking to spent £3000-£5000 on the yacht.



I’ve managed to work out what type of yacht and extras to start looking for so this is helpful and now it’s just a case of finding a really good deal out there.

I need it ready to sail with-out needing engine over-hauls or masts changing or replacing.

I don’t mind if it’s grubby needing tlc and minor repairs but that’s it.



I see in North and South America that yachts in my size range are very plentiful and cheap compared to the UK prices. In effect I get 2-3 times the amount of yacht for the same price here in the UK and a huge range.

My question is simply can I go over there and buy it and bring help to sail it back, or am I going to be hit with some sort of fees that make the yacht suddenly worthless?
Hi Stealthmode, Good luck on your search. We just completed a search for our new yacht/home. We sold our boat in American Samoa and started our search in Hawaii. We flew to Florida and drove up the coast to Maine. We wound up buying in Annapolis, MD. From experience I can tell you very few yachts out there that are for sale have a good rig. 90% of the boats we looked at needed new rigging, mast paint and new sails. We chose one with a new engine and we are doing the rig and sails. It is thoroughly disgusting at the shape of some of these boats and they are represented as "ready to go cruising". Believe nothing you read on the internet and little of what the broker says, rely on your own observations. We were at the point of wishing we had kept our previous boat when we finally decided on a boat that needed known refitting. At least we got a good price and we will know our boat inside and out when we are finished. We will spend the summer refitting her and then head south until the butter melts.
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The First one's engine is a rebuilt in 2001 - not good idea.

Both are on the wrong side of the USA - just getting one back into the Caribbean would leave very little change out of $10,000 US.

If Ruby is a genuine up and up sale - that is the best boat we have seen - It is being advertised by another broker. It sounds too good to be true - and you know what that means.
If anyone over near RUBY can try to get in touch with the owners/boatyard as they are not responding to me this end.

But alas, it's also in my head MMNETSEA, like you said, to good to be true possibly.

Why do you see an engine re-build as a bad thing?, this is if done right is a very good thing.
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39' Roberts 39 Fiberglass
  • Year: 1986
  • Current Price: US$ 24,950
  • Located In San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico
This 38' C&C Cutter needs finishing off inside, looks like it still has to be plumed in after everything is drilled and fitted tap wise.

I've asked for more from the owner on this one as I want to see the actual condition of her right now.

From the images on a couple of sites it looks like it's been laid up for some time and the top of her neglected, i'll see what comes back from the owner and what is/isn't done.

38' C&C Cutter
  • Year: 1975
  • Current Price: US$ 20,000
  • Located In La Paz, BCS, Mexico
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CaptDingy, i'm struggling to find any Bristol yachts at a price I can read with-out falling over. But that said i'll keep looking.

From the list you have given and others i'll now stop wandering around at other types and confine myself to finding something of one of the types mentioned as they are ideal for me.

38' Bristol 38.8
  • Year: 1983
  • Current Price: US$ 124,900

    (£ 76,401)
This is beautiful and I like the layout very much. Lots of things on her including new standing rigging, steering-gear all over-hauled and the list goes on.

Something as good as this coming onto the market but in my price range would bring a smile to my face.

Also this one is up for sale

35' Bristol 35
  • Year: 1975
  • Current Price: US$ 39,000

    (£ 23,856)
  • Located In Milwaukee, WI
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CaptDingy, i'm struggling to find any Bristol yachts at a price I can read with-out falling over. But that said i'll keep looking.

From the list you have given and others i'll now stop wandering around at other types and confine myself to finding something of one of the types mentioned as they are ideal for me.

Gooday 'stealth'. Cptn. Dinghy aka Bob has left Maine for Tortola - for short sailing, part-of-trip delivery - probably not back until 10th, so you'll need to be a tad patient. Now, I'm sure you will take extra careful notice of - Sir Richard (that's the handsome gentleman in the picture) - If it seems good to be true - it might well be, however it's then time to increase your 'critical, hard-nosed appraisal' of any such 'deals'. Furthermore - I would give 'RodHeadlee' - Rod & Patti of SV Joint Venture - 4 stars - for his wise attitude ; ie. believe no info off the net & little (if any at all) from brokers. If you take a sec & go into their 'profile' there is much to be learned there. If by chance - Rob & Patti read this, we'd all like to know 'how're-goin-mate'? Was the yacht re-fit successful, cost effective & over-all what you wanted to achieve? Does she sail up to your expectations? Importantly, has 'the butter melted' yet? Here in very Far North Queensland it was 7* @ 0530 & that's tooooo cold for us by at least 20*. That sure is a nice yacht design you have chosen !! If I was a 'monohull' person I'd be following your path for sure. Every great dream begins with a thorough reality check. Fab sailing - everyone, james
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39' Roberts 39 Fiberglass
  • Year: 1986
  • Current Price: US$ 24,950
  • Located In San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico
This 38' C&C Cutter needs finishing off inside, looks like it still has to be plumed in after everything is drilled and fitted tap wise.

I've asked for more from the owner on this one as I want to see the actual condition of her right now.

From the images on a couple of sites it looks like it's been laid up for some time and the top of her neglected, i'll see what comes back from the owner and what is/isn't done.

38' C&C Cutter
  • Year: 1975
  • Current Price: US$ 20,000
  • Located In La Paz, BCS, Mexico
As with previous selections both of these boats are on the wrong side of North America -- In the Sea of Cortez.
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CaptDingy, i'm struggling to find any Bristol yachts at a price I can read with-out falling over. But that said i'll keep looking.

From the list you have given and others i'll now stop wandering around at other types and confine myself to finding something of one of the types mentioned as they are ideal for me.

38' Bristol 38.8
  • Year: 1983
  • Current Price: US$ 124,900

    (£ 76,401)
This is beautiful and I like the layout very much. Lots of things on her including new standing rigging, steering-gear all over-hauled and the list goes on.

Something as good as this coming onto the market but in my price range would bring a smile to my face.

Also this one is up for sale

35' Bristol 35
  • Year: 1975
  • Current Price: US$ 39,000

    (£ 23,856)
  • Located In Milwaukee, WI
What can I say, A petrol engine, now 36 years old. Overhauled 17 years ago. Complete overhaul, some time ago? 125 hours since then.

Way over priced. Not worth $20 000 US. Reading between the lines, that boat has been sitting on the hard for a long time. And, one would have to get it to the Eastern Seaboard of the US.
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Got you MMNETSEA on the engine side.

The california top end side, Mexico west side. I wasn't realizing the sailing distance from there as you say to get back to the east coast and then head over the atlantic.
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Thanks for that Silver Raven.

I'm also going to leave for a couple of days.

I'm jumping on the motorbike and going to ride out to some boat yards that are close-by here in the south UK and Wales.

I'll see for myself how far out these adverts are and the condition in real life, which by the sounds of it, is going to be a lot worse than shown or advertised, or as you all say it what's not advertised that's the problem.

I'll then see what is needed and how much in cost to put right and take this price off and some more off the asking price then go from there.

I managed to follow you all in your advice and recommadations of what type of sail boat of which i'm going to settle on a single masthead.

I'll post back how I got on, what I looked at etc and how flexible the sellers were.

Here in the UK people are so tight they would charge you to come out of their house to go and show you the boat.

They would also tell you the things needed doing but still sell it at its asking price if it was in mint condition.
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Thanks for that Silver Raven.

I'm also going to leave for a couple of days.

I'm jumping on the motorbike and going to ride out to some boat yards that are close-by here in the south UK and Wales.

I'll see for myself how far out these adverts are and the condition in real life, which by the sounds of it, is going to be a lot worse than shown or advertised, or as you all say it what's not advertised that's the problem.

I'll then see what is needed and how much in cost to put right and take this price off and some more off the asking price then go from there.

I managed to follow you all in your advice and recommadations of what type of sail boat of which i'm going to settle on a single masthead.

I'll post back how I got on, what I looked at etc and how flexible the sellers were.

Here in the UK people are so tight they would charge you to come out of their house to go and show you the boat.

They would also tell you the things needed doing but still sell it at its asking price if it was in mint condition.
Here is a boat worth looking at, in your back yard

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Hello Stealth, By this time my contributions to your search may have been a little rough.

So I spent a little time checking out some boats on your behalf.

Do you remember the British Couple, the Chandlers who were taken hostage by pirates near the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean. They had one of these boats :-

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It is presently in your back yard CLICK HERE
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Hello Stealth, By this time my contributions to your search may have been a little rough.

So I spent a little time checking out some boats on your behalf.

Do you remember the British Couple, the Chandlers who were taken hostage by pirates near the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean. They had one of these boats :-

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It is presently in your back yard CLICK HERE
MMNETSEA, I prefer it is given rough as I think others reading this will get a better understanding of whats out there at what price.

I remember the Chandlers all right, the whole country was up in arms because the UK government were as usual dragging there heels.

Our government are very bad at turning a blind eye to it's people at the drop of a hat, as history shows so well. Fine when we are all in the system making money for them and being spoon-fed but when you end up in trouble as a UK citizen you're on your own unless a rescue attempt is in there interests, i.e, money or power/control, other than this it's a simple nice knowing you, good-bye.

We as a nation and the donations of the world paid the ransom to have them released.

There was a big storm brewing over the whole handling of this and the amount of defiant arrogance of a few certain members of our parliment.

And to add insult to injury a british Navy boat with special op's on board saw thewhole bloody thing happing in front of there eyes then when this came out the government statement was they did nothing as they would have been killed.

Er, what are these men trained for again, someone remind me.

I'll leave it at this as this would need another post.
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