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Old 07-26-2013, 03:11 PM   #15
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Default Tough love...............

Auzee, I know this has become almost your personal forum, and you prefer the Glee Club style of answer. The guy asked a question, and he had a bunch of people tap dancing around the issue he asked. In the pursuit of not trying to bruise his feelings, we start debating LOA vs Hull length. Tap dance, Tap dance.........................

The guy has two wee ones and a wife who can't run the boat. He asked a question and he got a range of answers, Glee Club to my version of pull your head out of your ***. Life coaches and Motivational Group Leaders come in all flavors. You just have to pick. One that pats you on the back and tells you what genius you are, or someone like me that makes you question the current school of thought.

Chaos and I have developed a dialogue. He came back with Mac 26. I countered a bit small. He is on the path now to getting the right boat, we didn't have to debate LOA or Hull length at all.

I don't come to this forum as much as I use to, but when I do, no tap dancing for me. You totally missed the humor I was aiming for in your diesel engine post. In America, that would be considered funny. It takes a certain intellect, understanding, and a willingness to serve the ball back over the net to get it.

Friends don't let friends idle their diesels. (that is a play on words that references a anti-drink and drive campaign here in the States). I will interpret for a while.

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Old 07-27-2013, 12:58 AM   #16
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Duckwheat, the world is not America.

What you understand about me or my contributions to this forum is of little concern to me. I am simply a sailor and I prefer to treat people with respect than to call them idiots, especially when they are merely seeking advice.

I give advice when I am asked, based upon the results of personal experience. I do not profess to be correct. I have never called anyone on this forum an idiot; although there are rare times when I certainly think it.

There are people in the world who 'call a spade a spade' or who chant the mantra of 'tough love'. Both are euphemisms for rudeness and intolerance of others opinions.

It is not difficult to offer an opinion on matters of sailing without resorting to personal attacks.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:47 AM   #17
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Welcome back Duckwheat. Good to see you here, even if you are seemingly a bit on the piss-and-vinegar side of things today.

I must admit than whenever anyone comes along and says "is this too big?" my instinctive thought is "yes! or you wouldn't be here asking that question." The folks I've met who cruise on very large vessels are comfortable with their choice and they either have the skill to deal with things or the money to hire help as needed.

Even so, I usually go down the path of explaining why it might be more than the person wants--many people aren't thinking about haul-outs, size of anchorages, depths, exponential costs of parts. It's really not all that clear for everyone.

And about "love" indeed. You don't know how many people/boaters I talked to for specific advice on specific things about our boat (before we bought it) or other similar boats and in the middle of it all, the other person would say "well, do you love the boat?" or something like that. As if loving how it looks (or some performance aspect of it) was actually going to make it a great cruising boat. I would always say, "well, no, I don't *love* the boat." and the person would say something like "well, find one you do!" as if it was a fall-in-love relationship.

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Old 07-29-2013, 01:52 AM   #18
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Default Piss and Vinegar and other things

I am a little sensory deprived, and the wife has me on a diet, thus the likely culprit earlier this weeks piss and vinegar. I am currently in the Bering Sea, heading north and I forgot my Kindle.

I can remember when I was going through the process of deciding which boat and all of the logistics, there were a lot of patient and nice people on this site as well as others who helped.

What I learned along the way is everyone has an opinion. Some are based on experience, and others on imagination.

When Chaos was asking about a 70' boat and his current situation. I thought to myself, money is going to become an issue. It is always an issue. The upkeep and projects on a 70' boot, oh my! Just to moor a 70' boat yikes. I have a very wealthy friend with an expensive boat in Panama. He complains continuously about what it cost him to moor the boat. I told him to shut the hell up, and thank his Dad for all of his hard work, so he can afford to pay the moorage.

Chaos is going to go through the process and he may or may not finish the journey. Who knows. There was a crusty guy on here who has since passed away. He would occasionally piss me off and I would reciprocate in turn. But he did make me think about things I might not have thought about.

The internet is a wonderful place. I am able to tick off an Auzee in another hemisphere. I need to send Al Gore another note of thanks.

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Duckwheat, the world is not America.

What you understand about me or my contributions to this forum is of little concern to me. I am simply a sailor and I prefer to treat people with respect than to call them idiots, especially when they are merely seeking advice.

I give advice when I am asked, based upon the results of personal experience. I do not profess to be correct. I have never called anyone on this forum an idiot; although there are rare times when I certainly think it.

There are people in the world who 'call a spade a spade' or who chant the mantra of 'tough love'. Both are euphemisms for rudeness and intolerance of others opinions.

It is not difficult to offer an opinion on matters of sailing without resorting to personal attacks.
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