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Old 11-15-2012, 05:20 PM   #15
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Default One more site you should take a look at for boat values.

I always check N.A.D.A. Home Page to find out what boats are actually selling for in the US. Your banker will be looking at it when he determines the loan value of the boat. While condition is everything, in spite of many claims to the contrary, it is a rare boat indeed that is maintained in "like new" condition. Particularly sailboats, which by their nature must sit outside year round exposed to the elements.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:09 AM   #16
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Yeah, you're too old. I won't be 60 until February, after that it's hopeless. Give up now.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:18 PM   #17
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Yeah, you're too old. I won't be 60 until February, after that it's hopeless. Give up now.
Found your inflatable yet mate ??
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:31 AM   #18
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Pedros, at 63 I've just returned to Hobart from a winter cruise to the Whitsundays. Two years ago we (my wife & I) took our boat (12m monohull) to New Caledonia for the winter. Next year, all being well, we will cruise off into the Pacific again. A very high percentage of cruising sailors we have met recently are our age or older.

It seems to me that the main barriers to your plan are health, fitness and attitude. If they aren't barriers, then no problem. If attitude is a problem - "I'm too old", "I don't think I can do it" - then its not going to happen.

If your budget runs to $200K, you are probably going to get a much better monohull than cat. The cat prices are pretty high. Cats are more common the further north you go (Qld) and not that many cross Bass Strait (there are exceptions). Choose a boat for your planned cruising grounds.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:11 PM   #19
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[QUOTE=svhoneybee;36252]Pedros, at 63 I've just returned to Hobart from a winter cruise to the Whitsundays. Two years ago we (my wife & I) took our boat (12m monohull) to New Caledonia for the winter. Next year, all being well, we will cruise off into the Pacific again. A very high percentage of cruising sailors we have met recently are our age or older.

It seems to me that the main barriers to your plan are health, fitness and attitude. If they aren't barriers, then no problem. If attitude is a problem - "I'm too old", "I don't think I can do it" - then its not going to happen.

If your budget runs to $200K, you are probably going to get a much better monohull than cat. The cat prices are pretty high. Cats are more common the further north you go (Qld) and not that many cross Bass Strait (there are exceptions). Choose a boat for your planned cruising ground

Planned cruising ground is north Queensland. I will have to decide what type of yacht i want. Have done a lot of research on catamarans, maybe i should be looking at monohulls
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Sounds like you have answered your own question with regards to age. That probably means you need to start a new discussion about what sort of boat you need to go cruising. Some questions to decide include where you will cruise, how many permanent crew on board, will there be occasional extras, is draft a big deal for you, what is your ongoing budget for maintenance and for living, will you use marinas a lot, are you ever going to go off shore. Don't forget that buying the boat is only the first step in emptying your bank balance. Allow 10 - 20% of purchase price each year for maintenance and expect to spend a big chunk immediately after purchase to fix problems and change things to suit your needs. The good news is that it is a buyers market, the bad news is that there is a lot of lemons out there. Good luck.
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I have had sailing boats for many years and have always maintained them well. My budgets were from $1500 for my 27 footer, to $6000 for my 55 footer.

Often I have seen it quoted that between 10 and 20% of the purchase price should be alotted to maintenance on an annual basis. What am I doing wrong?

Pedros has a budget of $200,000. So he is therefore going to need up to $40,000 per year or $800 per week to maintain the boat he buys? I simply cannot imagine how he could possibly spend such an amount purely on maintenance unless someone sells him a real bomb.
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[QUOTE=svhoneybee;36260]Sounds like you have answered your own question with regards to age. That probably means you need to start a new discussion about what sort of boat you need to go cruising. Some questions to decide include where you will cruise, how many permanent crew on board, will there be occasional extras, is draft a big deal for you, what is your ongoing budget for maintenance and for living, will you use marinas a lot, are you ever going to go off shore. Don't forget that buying the boat is only the first step in emptying your bank balance. Allow 10 - 20% of purchase price each year for maintenance and expect to spend a big chunk immediately after purchase to fix problems and change things to suit your needs. The good news is that it is a buyers market, the bad news is that there is a lot of lemons out there. Good Luck


1.. where ... queensland coast
2... one permanent crew ...the missus
3... no extras unless you call a meal and a look around ashore when possible an extra
4...hoping 20,000 a year will cover all
5...only use marina when needed, hopefully can anchor most of the time, is that possible??
6...10 to 20% of purchase price for maintaining my boat annually ....
Thats me buggered!!
7... yep would like to go offshore if l can purchase the right catamaran and gain enough experience
8... draft is quite a big deal for me, thats why i was looking at catamarans
9...lemon... if I am sensible and go through the right channels...survey etc surely I can get a good seaworthy catamaran with out getting ripped off.
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I have had sailing boats for many years and have always maintained them well. My budgets were from $1500 for my 27 footer, to $6000 for my 55 footer.

Often I have seen it quoted that between 10 and 20% of the purchase price should be alotted to maintenance on an annual basis. What am I doing wrong?

Pedros has a budget of $200,000. So he is therefore going to need up to $40,000 per year or $800 per week to maintain the boat he buys? I simply cannot imagine how he could possibly spend such an amount purely on maintenance unless someone sells him a real bomb.
Sounds like you are doing it right to me auzzee.
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[QUOTE=svhoneybee;36260]Sounds like you have answered your own question with regards to age. That probably means you need to start a new discussion about what sort of boat you need to go cruising. Some questions to decide include where you will cruise, how many permanent crew on board, will there be occasional extras, is draft a big deal for you, what is your ongoing budget for maintenance and for living, will you use marinas a lot, are you ever going to go off shore. Don't forget that buying the boat is only the first step in emptying your bank balance. Allow 10 - 20% of purchase price each year for maintenance and expect to spend a big chunk immediately after purchase to fix problems and change things to suit your needs. The good news is that it is a buyers market, the bad news is that there is a lot of lemons out there. Good Luck


1.. where ... queensland coast
2... one permanent crew ...the missus
3... no extras unless you call a meal and a look around ashore when possible an extra
4...hoping 20,000 a year will cover all
5...only use marina when needed, hopefully can anchor most of the time, is that possible??
6...10 to 20% of purchase price for maintaining my boat annually ....
me buggered!!
7... yep would like to go offshore if l can purchase the right catamaran and gain enough experience
8... draft is quite a big deal for me, thats why i was looking at catamarans
9...lemon... if I am sensible and go through the right channels...survey etc surely I can get a good seaworthy catamaran with out getting ripped off.
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Pedros, you might consider centreboard monohulls as a possible solution, though we haven't found our 1.7 metre draft much of a hindrance.

As for maintenance costs, when you start looking at boats, you will soon see what happens when the maintenance budget is too small. Good luck with it all. Might see you on the water soon.
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Pedros, have a gander at this http://www.cruiserlog.com/forums/f55...html#post36277 . Posted today under a different thread. Don't know the cost, but it appears to be a substantial craft.
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Found your inflatable yet mate ??
Heh. Nope, I bought a proper dinghy. Hope you have as much fun as I'm having. :-)
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Buy one on the west coast of the US and sail it to Australia. By the time you reach Bundaberg, you will know how to sail and you will have saved yourself qos of thousands of Aussy Dollars.
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