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Old 02-12-2006, 09:52 AM   #1
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I am an aussie living in Thailand. presently negotiating to buy a yacht, a 42' racer with pipe berths. The boat is near Baltimore. How do I get it to Thailand. I have very little sailing experience, but now have the time to fix that. From my research on the net I certainly cannot afford a professional crew ie. $400 us/day for a captain +++. I am waiting on quotes from shippers to say take it across either of the oceans and then with some experienced help finish the trip. which way is the safest via the med or via the Pacific? how long will it take, I do have some business committments, so i don't want to spend 6 months on the trip. can i do it for say $10,000 U.S dollars. and in 3 months?
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No. Forgive me for being blunt, but from Baltimore to Thailand is six months if you really rushed it. You've got to worry about hurricane seasons. It's a very, very long distance. And any crew you pick up is going to want to cruise, not rush. And with very little sailing experience yourself, you're liable to scare yourself before you have enough experience to finish the trip.

I also don't think you can ship it to Thailand for $10,000. But shipping it, in your circumstances, might be the best idea.
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Hi Phillip,

I agree with Jeanne. A delivery crew will cost you a whack more than $10,000, and I doubt you could get a cruising crew to take a racer - they just aren't comfortable enough for a long distance cruise - and not built for it either. Shipping is the way to go. Have it shipped to Port Klang and then do the short sail to Thailand from there.
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Thanks guys

Probably what I expected. I did'nt think the pipe berths would be a selling point for a potential crew member. I will wait for the shipping quote and research a little more. I might have to look at how much time I can spend on the voyage. Is 6 months rushing it, very short stopovers?

I am from Cronulla Beach in Sydney and have surfed around the world in huge waves, but i understand that in a yacht you cannot paddle in and sit on the beach when you are tired. What doesn't kill you is good for you. I guess i would need crew that want a tough sail not a deck chair on a luxury 100 footer, are they out there?

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Baltimore to Singapore, going eastward through the Med and Suez Canal - against the wind, not the easy way.

10,412 nautical miles. At an average 6 knots (impossible to maintain, but worth considering), that's 72 days without stopping. No anchoring, nothing. 2.5 months. And it won't happen that fast. double that and assume that the weather will be right the entire way (it won't), and you've got 5 months.

That's why delivery captains get paid so much. It's work for them, not pleasure.
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<font face="Arial"></font id="Arial">Phil,

That must either be the Boat of your Dreams or the Deal of a Lifetime if you're negotiating to purchase a yacht sitting on the opposite side of the planet from where you want to be... and in a quandry on how to get it back home quickly & cheaply.

Don't look so far.

There is a whole fleet of tradewind sailors meandering west across the Pacific and many have had enough by the time they reach Southeast Asia and are ready to swallow the anchor and buy a condo.

There are lots of laid-up boats stored all along the west coast of Malaysia with highly motivated sellers. I personally saw FOR SALE signs posted on several fine & seaworthy vessels in every port between Singapore & Phuket. Try searching marinas, such as Sebana Cove, Port Dickson, Port Klang, Lumut, Rebak, Telok, Boat Lagoon & Yacht Haven.

Do yourself a big favor, mate. Apply the savings in delivery costs to close on the Deal of a Lifetime on the Boat of your Dreams right there in your own neighbourhood... which is, in my opinion, among the finest cruising grounds in the world.

Baltimore, by the way, is on the EAST coast of North America. And a LOT can go wrong trying to hurry across oceans to get home on a tight budget.

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yes, i am getting the picture. The yacht could not be further away. Looking for a yacht last 2 months, the best three boats, around 50k US are on the East coast area. Would be close to double the price in Thailand. Maybe its the hurricanes. I did not think it would be that hard.

i am going blind researching this on the net. I am hoping shipping will be the answer, any ideas out there on cost to ship from Ft lauderdale to say New Zealand
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Is this yacht listed on line somewhere? Can you provide a link? Have you had a survey done? If not, is your purchase contingent on a survey? A lot of racing yachts have been "run hard, put away wet." be careful. One of the reasons they aren't as expensive as a cruising yacht is because they don't have any of the amenities. No refrigerator, EPIRB, HF radio, etc., etc. little more than a starting battery, no house bank of batteries to run nav lights, etc.

A lot of stuff you should have if you want to take it offshore for a few days.

Do you want this just for racing? Why such a big boat?
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hi jeanneP

Yes ,correct. Guys that want to be competitive don't seem to worry about comforts, refrigeration etc. Owned by a guy working in the industry, so well maintained. No interior basic head,cooker and nav station. good electronics all updated, radar, autopilot etc. Am waiting on a survey, and if i can get a crew, or can ship it close to home I would buy it. Sail it for a year ( learning) and then a simple interior done in Thailand where i live now.

Is it that big, I thought 38'- 45 was a good size. I'll grow into it. I must admit at Ocean Marina, Jomtien last week, a beneteau 49' looked huge

You rarely see somebody selling a yacht to downsize, i thought i would cover that now.

If I had your knowledge now, I would not be spending hours on here trying to pick your brains, it would be easy.

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p.s if I get the yacht here you know where you can a day out in Thailand
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It's never easy, and we continue to learn our life through, or we are dead.

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Hey Phillip,

I'm up for hauling *** minimum comforts not a problem. Can get another person for sure. A third maybe and u got yourself a racing crew. 6 months unless going via cape of good hope, is double what u would need.

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tks Wojtek

If i can get a crew with that attitude the trips on. The guy i am buying the boat from manages a large marina(the boat is well maintained). I will be making sure we will have all the safety gear needed. i might even fit a couple items to up the comfort level. What about navigation skills? I am assuming that via South Pacific Islands is the best and safest way. Is via Hawaii an option? my e-mail is sailblue@hotmail.com i could send you info on the boat.

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i just got home. I love the ya hoo

it 's 5 am Thailand

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