Originally Posted by Silver Raven
G'day Al, aka 'belleist'. s/v Persephone looks a nice yacht (if that's a picture of it). Tell us all-about your choice of yacht & why you made that choice & we can all learn from your knowledge, Please. I've asked the designer - Kurt Hughes - several times - for the weight his 'stock' design (38' tri) might carry & still remain within his design weight specifications & cruise safely (ie - not overloaded), all to no avail as he seems to not want to answer the questions asked. Maybe after so long 'down-under' I've lost the ability to speak 'North American' english. His attitude is less than helpful to anyone/everyone wishing to seriously consider one of his yacht designs. Sign of our times I'm sorry to say. The builder has unfortunately passed-away. A shame to loose excellent builder/sailors, such a loss to us all. Thanks for the info about your 'sink-rate'. Every bit of information I get really does help me & I hope everyone else in 'forums' that doesn't want to overload their yacht. Ciao, james
Got a Definition from KURT.
Here it is
What's the payload figure.
December 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm
whatís your definition on ?
[ Bare boat, including engine, propulsion, mast, winches sails, anchor and chain, sheets, water and fuel tanks but empty, radios, electronics instruments, gen set. life raft, safety equipment ] ?
[ Added weight. = Crew, water, fuel, stores, spares, parachute anchor and rode, inflatable and engine ... ]
December 9, 2013 at 5:07 pm Kurts reply.
I call weight complete vessel, empty and dry. I canít think of anyt other definition.
My question to Kurt in reply.
December 10, 2013 at 6:30 pm
Whats does a complete vessel empty and dry mean?
There has been a lot of complaints on world websites by posters prospectus buyers that they canít get strait answers from designers and they all have different definitions.
Some say it is done on purpose so if the boat does not float to design lines they have some degree to scrurm, explanations and exonerate themselves.
December 10, 2013 at 7:34 pm
I have no idea what other designers do.
I thought I gave a ďstraitĒ answer on this already. Complete, empty and dry.
December 12, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Iíll add my question and your answer to the forum debate re your interpretation with your name.