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Old 09-28-2007, 09:14 AM   #15
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"Forecast"

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Old 09-28-2007, 12:14 PM   #17
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Ireland to fail the impossible task and Argentina to top the group, France to beat New Zealand in the quarter final.

England get organised and beat Tonga in a war of attrition before going on to meet Australia in the quarters - what a prospect that is!

Scotland beat Italy well and Wales sort out the Fijians.

Best news so far is the perforances of some of the minnows - Portugal, Japan and Georgia in particular - but it's also nice to see Romania re-appearing on the fringes - heaven help us all when they and Georgia get some real funding. Biggest disappointment so far is Ireland who have simply gone to the dogs. Other good news is a reduction in WC proper numbers and the introduction of a separate mini-WC for minnows.

Other than that, very best news this weekend will be newly promoted Caldy beating Harrogate in National 3 North this weekend and the Burmese generals seeing sense and giving Burma back to its people.

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Old 10-01-2007, 01:47 AM   #18
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Update - see latest: no real surprises other than Fiji And England.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:56 AM   #19
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2007 - Fixtures for the game played by gentlemen hooligan



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Blue = Forecast

Date Time Team 1 Team 2 Pool

1 07/09/2007 21:00 France Argentina D - Argentina 17, France 12

2 08/09/2007 13:45 New Zealand Italy C - NZ 76, Italy 14

3 08/09/2007 15:45 Australia Japan B - Oz 91, Japan 3

4 08/09/2007 18:00 England USA A - Eng 28, USA 10

5 09/09/2007 14:00 Wales Canada B - Wales 42, Canada 17

6 09/09/2007 16:00 South Africa Samoa A - SA 59, Samoa 7

7 09/09/2007 18:00 Scotland Portugal C - Scotland 28, Portugal 10

8 09/09/2007 20:00 Ireland Namibia D - Ireland 32, Namibia 17

9 11/09/2007 20:00 Argentina Georgia D - Argentina 33, Georgia 3

10 12/09/2007 14:00 USA Tonga A - Usa 15, Tonga 25

11 12/09/2007 18:00 Japan Fiji B - Japan 31, Fiji 35

12 12/09/2007 20:00 Italy Romania C - Italy 24, Romania 18

13 14/09/2007 21:00 England South Africa A - South Africa 36, England 0

14 14/09/2007 12:00 New Zealand Portugal C - NZ 108, Portugal 13

15 15/09/2007 15:00 Wales Australia B - Wales 20, Oz 32

16 15/09/2007 21:00 Ireland Georgia D - Ireland 14, Georgia 10

17 16/09/2007 14:00 Fiji Canada B - Fiji 29, Canada 16

18 16/09/2007 16:00 Samoa Tonga A - Samoa 15, Tonga 19

19 16/09/2007 21:00 France Namibia D - France 87, Namibia 10

20 18/09/2007 21:00 Scotland Romania C - Scotland 42, Romania 0

21 19/09/2007 20:00 Italy Portugal C - Italy 31, Portugal 5

22 20/09/2007 21:00 Wales Japan B - Wales 72, Japan 18

23 21/09/2007 21:00 France Ireland D - France 25, Ireland 3

24 22/09/2007 14:00 South Africa Tonga A - South Africa 30, Tonga 25

25 22/09/2007 16:00 England Samoa A - England 44,Samoa 22

2226 22/09/2007 21:00 Argentina Namibia D- Argentina 63,Namibia 3

27 23/09/2007 14:30 Australia Fiji B - Australia 55, Fiji 12

28 23/09/2007 17:00 Scotland New Zealand C - Scotland 0, New Zealand 40

29 25/09/2007 18:00 Canada Japan B - Canada 12, Japan 12

30 25/09/2007 20:00 Romania Portugal C - Romania 14, Portugal 10

31 26/09/2007 18:00 Georgia Namibia D - Georgia 30, Namibia 0

32 26/09/2007 20:00 Samoa USA A - Samoa 25, USA 21

33 28/09/2007 21:00 England Tonga A - England 36, Tonga 20

34 29/09/2007 13:00 New Zealand Romania C- New Zealand 85 Romania 8

35 29/09/2007 15:00 Australia Canada B - Australia 37 Canada 6

36 29/09/2007 17:00 Wales Fiji B - Wales 34 Fiji 38

37 29/09/2007 21:00 Scotland Italy C - Scotland 18Italy 10

38 30/09/2007 15:00 France Georgia D - France 64 Georgia 7

39 30/09/2007 17:00 Ireland Argentina D - Ireland 15 Argentina 30

40 30/09/2007 20:00 South Africa USA A - South Africa 64 USA 15

41 06/10/2007 15:00 W Pool B RU Pool A QF1 Marseille -Australia 10 England 12

42 06/10/2007 22:00 W Pool C RU Pool D QF2 Cardiff -New Zealand 18 France 20


43 07/10/2007 15:00 W Pool A RU Pool B QF3 Marseille South Africa 6 Fiji 8

44 07/10/2007 21:00 W Pool D RU Pool C QF4 St Denis Argentina 10 Scotland 12

45 13/10/2007 21:00 W QF1 W QF2 SF1 ST Denis England 26 France 24

46 14/10/2007 21:00 W QF3 W QF4 SF2 St Denis Fiji 40 Scotland 18

47 19/10/2007 21:00 L SF1 L SF 2 3rd/4th Paris - Scotland 26 - France 18

48 20/10/2007 21:00 W SF 1 W SF 2 Final St Denis - Scotland 80 - Fiji 100


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Pity for New Zealand and France but they actually get each other at the Millenium Stadium, Cardiff quarter final next weekend so an early Final for some forecasters!

However well Argentina are doing, Scotland will fancy it's chances against a team that really looks like it's enjoying itself, has not yet to show any serious weakness or being exposed to any real resistance/insight. South Africa should batter Fiji into total submission and England will struggleto stem the Aussie tide but there've already been a couple of real surprises so.....

... next weekend's looking good; see ya!

PS: Caldy beat Harrogate 18-0 on Saturday; next weekend, Preston Grasshoppers - different level but no less entertaining. Still no sign of any real progress in Burma!
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Well, the quarter finals are certainly taking their toll!

Australia - out!

New Zealand - out!
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Update - see latest: no real surprises other than Fiji And England.
What about the All Greys/Grays - they had the hex put on them ???
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Surprise, surprise! Don't ya just hate us when this sort of thing happens! What price now for Fiji surprising the Boks and/or Scotland stopping the Pumas advance?

My guess is that the bookies will be on a France v South Africa final while I'm beginning to see England v Argentina as the next upset (for some!).

Whatever happens now, it's been a great WC so far and I can't wait to see how things develop after today's QFs with the probability of a Northern v Southern hemisphere final albeit maybe not from the accepted ranks of the latter.

Enjoy this one while it lasts - the next one's going to be another four years in the making!

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2007 - Fixtures for the game played by gentlemen hooligan

RED = Result

Blue = Forecast


Date Time Team 1 Team 2 Pool

1 07/09/2007 21:00 France Argentina D - Argentina 17, France 12

2 08/09/2007 13:45 New Zealand Italy C - NZ 76, Italy 14

3 08/09/2007 15:45 Australia Japan B - Oz 91, Japan 3

4 08/09/2007 18:00 England USA A - Eng 28, USA 10

5 09/09/2007 14:00 Wales Canada B - Wales 42, Canada 17

6 09/09/2007 16:00 South Africa Samoa A - SA 59, Samoa 7

7 09/09/2007 18:00 Scotland Portugal C - Scotland 28, Portugal 10

8 09/09/2007 20:00 Ireland Namibia D - Ireland 32, Namibia 17

9 11/09/2007 20:00 Argentina Georgia D - Argentina 33, Georgia 3

10 12/09/2007 14:00 USA Tonga A - Usa 15, Tonga 25

11 12/09/2007 18:00 Japan Fiji B - Japan 31, Fiji 35

12 12/09/2007 20:00 Italy Romania C - Italy 24, Romania 18

13 14/09/2007 21:00 England South Africa A - South Africa 36, England 0

14 14/09/2007 12:00 New Zealand Portugal C - NZ 108, Portugal 13

15 15/09/2007 15:00 Wales Australia B - Wales 20, Oz 32

16 15/09/2007 21:00 Ireland Georgia D - Ireland 14, Georgia 10

17 16/09/2007 14:00 Fiji Canada B - Fiji 29, Canada 16

18 16/09/2007 16:00 Samoa Tonga A - Samoa 15, Tonga 19

19 16/09/2007 21:00 France Namibia D - France 87, Namibia 10

20 18/09/2007 21:00 Scotland Romania C - Scotland 42, Romania 0

21 19/09/2007 20:00 Italy Portugal C - Italy 31, Portugal 5

22 20/09/2007 21:00 Wales Japan B - Wales 72, Japan 18

23 21/09/2007 21:00 France Ireland D - France 25, Ireland 3

24 22/09/2007 14:00 South Africa Tonga A - South Africa 30, Tonga 25

25 22/09/2007 16:00 England Samoa A - England 44,Samoa 22

2226 22/09/2007 21:00 Argentina Namibia D- Argentina 63,Namibia 3

27 23/09/2007 14:30 Australia Fiji B - Australia 55, Fiji 12

28 23/09/2007 17:00 Scotland New Zealand C - Scotland 0, New Zealand 40

29 25/09/2007 18:00 Canada Japan B - Canada 12, Japan 12

30 25/09/2007 20:00 Romania Portugal C - Romania 14, Portugal 10

31 26/09/2007 18:00 Georgia Namibia D - Georgia 30, Namibia 0

32 26/09/2007 20:00 Samoa USA A - Samoa 25, USA 21

33 28/09/2007 21:00 England Tonga A - England 36, Tonga 20

34 29/09/2007 13:00 New Zealand Romania C- New Zealand 85 Romania 8

35 29/09/2007 15:00 Australia Canada B - Australia 37 Canada 6

36 29/09/2007 17:00 Wales Fiji B - Wales 34 Fiji 38

37 29/09/2007 21:00 Scotland Italy C - Scotland 18Italy 10

38 30/09/2007 15:00 France Georgia D - France 64 Georgia 7

39 30/09/2007 17:00 Ireland Argentina D - Ireland 15 Argentina 30

40 30/09/2007 20:00 South Africa USA A - South Africa 64 USA 15

41 06/10/2007 15:00 W Pool B RU Pool A QF1 Marseille -Australia 10 England 12

42 06/10/2007 22:00 W Pool C RU Pool D QF2 Cardiff -New Zealand 18 France 20

43 07/10/2007 15:00 W Pool A RU Pool B QF3 Marseille -South Africa 37 Fiji 20

44 07/10/2007 21:00 W Pool D RU Pool C QF4 St Denis -Argentina 19 Scotland 13

45 13/10/2007 21:00 W QF1 W QF2 SF1 ST Denis -England 14 France 9

46 14/10/2007 21:00 W QF3 W QF4 SF2 St Denis - South Africa 37 Argentina 13

47 19/10/2007 21:00 L SF1 L SF 2 3rd/4th Paris - France 10 - Argentina 34

48 20/10/2007 21:00 W SF 1 W SF 2 Final St Denis - South Africa 33 -England 12
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England scoring two tries and losing in either of your forecasts? Did you watch the demolition of the Australian pack on Saturday?

South Africa beating Argentina and France fairly comfortably when, after whupping a poor England side, in the first encounter, they've struggled to dominate so-called second tier nations until the last minutes to say nothing of having Habana skinned by an American/Zimbabwian sprinter - was he playing yesterday?

Forecasting is tough and getting tougher but form and momentum suggest that you may well have the Final and Play-off line-ups the wrong way round - even worse the Boks could be playing England for third place - a prize for England and a complete failure for the much fancied ZA outfit!

Can't wait; really can't wait for this weekend and can't imagine what life's going to be like after it - I could, I suppose, ask an Aussie or a Kiwi but ....
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South Africa , they've struggled to dominate so-called second tier nationst ...
Hi Peter ,

I am glad that you refer to "so-called" second tier nations ,

The commentators appear to have latched on to a new phrase and can't let go - all through the Boks <> Fiji match they referred to Fiji as second tier ! Therefore they Fiji were somehow blessed to be matching the Boks in certain departments. Just a look at these 30 Fiji Players amongst whom 22 were selected to front up - 15 of these took the field - nearly all Professional Rugby Players from good clubs in Europe and overseas. Not much different to the English or South African squads in terms of being professionals. Maybe the Portuguese, USA and Romanians who play for fun are in the second tier.

Fiji's World Cup squad: Jone Qovu (back-row, Metro Racing Paris), Isoa Domolailai (lock, Toulon), Bill Gadolo (hooker, Lomaiviti), Jone Railomo (prop, Poitevin), Netani Talei (back-row, Worcester), Alefoso Yalayalatabua (prop, Navy), Semisi Naevo (lock, NEC), Sisa Koyamaibole (back-row, Taranaki), Aca Ratuva (back-row, Massy), Akapusi Qera (back-row, Gloucester), Graham Dewes (prop, Marist), Kele Leawere (lock, Hino Motors), Wame Lewaravu (back-row, Disavu), Sunia Koto (prop/hooker, Marist New Zealand), Henry Qiodravu (prop, Orleans), Ifereimi Rawaqa (lock, World Fighting Bull), Vereniki Sauturaga (hooker, Duavata), Seru Rabeni (centre/wing, Leicester), Seremaia Bai (centre, Clermont-Auvergne), Norman Ligairi (full-back, Brive), Gabiriele Lovobalavu (centre, Marist), Waisea Luveniyali (fly-half, Airport), Jone Daunivucu (half-back, Tarbes), Nicky Little (fly-half, Saracens), Mosese Rauluni (scrum-half, Saracens), Vilimone Delasau (wing, Clermont-Auvergne), Isoa Neivua (wing, Mosimosi), Maleli Kunavore (utility back, Toulouse), Filimone Bolavucu (wing, Brive), Kameli Ratuvou (wing, Saracens)
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For me "second tier" is more about money and the quality and intensity of the preparation it affords. The great thing about this WC is that player standards are generally much higher and the committment and enjoyment of (and provided by) the so-called minnows has been fantastic. No one in their right mind, of course, would class Fiji as minnows but they, Samoa and Tonga don't exactly have a big budget and most would have expected ZA to maintain control of the ball and win comfortably.

On the down side, Ireland, Wales and, to a slightly lesser extent, England have demonstrated what can happen when there are problems in the camp and New Zealand have proved that you can have the best squad in the world but get knocked out by a good team applying the all for one and one for all principle - interesting in that that same team was beaten by Argentina in the same way. Whatever happened to Australia is anybody's guess but it does suggest that Martin Johnson was correct when he said that to win the WC you need a big, fiery pack playing on the edge and an excellent kicker!

ZA's problem against Argentina is going to be matching its committment, controlling it's own occassional wildness and getting some control; France's problem against England is going to be putting in and maintaining a big performance up-front against an improving but still far from compelling English squad.

My only concern now is that that the pressure may get to a number of the more fiery players in all four teams and force referees to take yellow, even, red cards with the inevitable impact on the game and result.

Let's hope that it all stays within acceptable limits and that the best teams get thru intact!

Good luck!
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