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Old 10-23-2008, 06:06 PM   #1
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I've been shopping for my Pactor modem and was recently told that I should hold-off as there may a better alternative coming out soon. I'm sure Richard can help with this one...

Here is what I have from Winlink:


http://www.winlink.org/system/files/WINMOR...#256,1,WINMOR…A Sound Card ARQ Mode for Winlink HF Digital Messaging

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From my understanding the Winmor Beta version is likely to come out around March 09 - and although it sounds very promising, some are advising caution as the software may require tuning to deal with unforeseen glitches. Wonder what the sound card will cost?

What with this other Computer development - click HERE In the not too distant future we may do away with radios and pactor modems (for those on Land - anyway)

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Old 10-24-2008, 02:58 PM   #3
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The issue with Pactor II and III is that they are patented. Thus, although there have been many Pactor I PC sound card modems available for quite some time (public domain algorithm) one has always had to pay the very large premium for PACTOR II and III. In order for WINLINK to go to WINMORE they will have to do two things: 1) get a level of performance similar or better than PACTOR III and 2) change out all of the configurations at the current shore stations. I am not saying this will not happen, I just don't think it will happen quickly. It will be interesting to see if SCS drops the modem price once WINMORE is introduced.

BTW there are some very good protocols that operate with PC Sound Cards - in particular for very high noise low signal strength environments - that have never caught on. In most cases there was not enough demand for the shore stations to change over.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:22 AM   #4
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Hrm, OK I have an ICOM IC-M600 -- doesn't have a PACTOR port but I understand that there is an unofficial and unsupported hardware hack to install one. I don't have a PACTOR modem and haven't really studied what's required to go get one installed -- I guess the best option would be to upgrade the radio, which I haven't the impetus to do at the moment because it seems to do its job adequately for voice communication with shore stations, etc. Plus by the time I upgrade the radio and buy a PACTOR I'm looking at about the same price as a satellite modem setup, with a much lower speed (albeit lower running cost). I do have a laptop which I use as my primary navigation gear -- it's a 2-3 year old Panasonic toughbook (waterproof, shockproof, etc) which works quite well and has a fair amount of CPU grunt to spare.

This is, however, interesting. The laptop has a sound card, alternatively I also have a spare USB port or two (having an external USB hub). What else would I need to get this software going when it comes out? Assuming the soundcard has a 3.5mm audio out jack and the HF radio can be convinced to accept audio in, do I just run a cable between the card and the radio?
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So who on the board is using Winmor and what's the good news and bad news?

Do built-in sound cards on newer laptops work OK? any specifically better?

Is the active WinMor thread or am I in the wrong topic (mod: please move me if so..

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Originally Posted by sydeva' date='18 May 2010 - 10:21 AM View Post

So who on the board is using Winmor and what's the good news and bad news?

Do built-in sound cards on newer laptops work OK? any specifically better?
I've been using a Pactor modem for many years. I have participated in the Winmor beta testing.

If you are going to use Winmor you should get an external sound card. The USB SignaLink is about the best regarded among heavy Winmor users. $100US. General speed is about that of Pactor II, not even close to Pactor III.

None of the commercial e-mail providers (like Sailmail or Cruiseemail) support Winmor.

If you are out cruising for real and want solid e-mail capability on passage Pactor is still the way to go. If you're island hopping then wifi is probably adequate.


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