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Old 04-04-2008, 12:20 AM   #1
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Hi all

What a great forum. Congratulations.

We are a father (John 62) and adult son (Chris 27) arriving in San Diego on April 17 to shop around for a yacht to sail back to Australia. Chris is paying. I'm just along for the ride.

Fortunately we have friends at Solana Beach who we can stay with.

Our best case scenario is that we will purchase and refit as necessary a yacht fairly quickly and be on our way and worst case scenario is that we will get to spend some time with friends in spring in Southern California and fly back with a lot more knowledge about buying a yacht on west coast USA.

We live in Cairns on the Great Barrier Reef in Queensland.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Bye for now

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Old 04-04-2008, 04:09 AM   #2
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Welcome,

Give us an idea of the type of boat you are looking for.

In the mean time San Diego has thousands of boats to look at ::

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Old 04-04-2008, 05:46 AM   #3
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Welcome,

Give us an idea of the type of boat you are looking for.

In the mean time San Diego has thousands of boats to look at ::

Boat links

Richard
Thank you for the welcome.

Chris wants to use it as a liveaboard in Cairns yet it has to be seaworthy enough to make the 6,000

nm passage via Hawaii, Gilbert Islands, Solomon Islands, Cairns.

Budget is US$35,000 tops including cost of any refit.

Fibreglass, 32ft+, full keel, autopilot, wind/solar generator, fridge/freezer, tender with

outboard, good sails, good engine, sounder, ssb radio, vhf radio, sound rigging is the essential

wish list.

I guess that about covers it. We realise that the budget is at the lower end for a sailboat for a

trans Pacific passage but we are hopeful that we will find something within that price range.

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Old 04-04-2008, 07:28 AM   #4
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Budget is US$35,000 tops including cost of any refit.

Fibreglass, 32ft+, we are hopeful that we will find something within that price range.

Johnno
Hi Jonno,

Here's a selection of sailboats in the price range and size

scattered all over the US.

36' FRERS 36 F-3 1984 USD$ 35,000 Mamaroneck, NY

36' Watkins Cruising Sloop 1982 $ 34,900 Sarasota, FL

36' C&C YACHTS 1980 USD$ 32,500 Waukegan, IL

36' C&C 36' 1979 $ 32,900 Jamestown, RI

36' Islander Islander 36 1974 $ 34,900 San Diego, CA

35' Springer Pilot House Sloop 1985 USD$ 34,900 Charleston, SC

35' Challenger Sloop Rig 1974 USD$ 35,000 Dana Point, CA

35' CAL Cruising 35 Sloop 1974 USD$ 35,000 Racine, WI

34' President Nassau 1994 USD$ 33,900 Deal Pending

34' Hunter Marine H-34 1984 $ 32,500 Holland, Mi

34' IRWIN CITATION 1984 USD$ 32,000 St. Petersburg, FL

34' J Boats J 34 1984 CAN$ 33,780 Oakville, ON

34' Irwin Citation 1984 $ 31,000 Pensacola, FL

34' Hunter Sloop 1983 $ 34,900 Merritt Island, FL

34' O'Day 34 1983 $ 35,000 Annapolis, MD

34' San Juan Sloop 1983 $ 34,900 Fort Myers Beach, FL

34' O'Day 34 1983 $ 32,000 Harwich Port, MA

34' O'Day Sloop 1981 $ 34,000 Merrritt Island, FL

34' C&C 1980 $ 34,500 New Bern, NC

33' Hunter 33.5 1989 USD$ 33,500 Middle River, MD

33' C & C K/CB 1986 USD$ 32,500 Annapolis, MD

33' Capital Yachts Inc Newport 33 1984 USD$ 34,900 San Diego, CA

33' Newport Sloop 1984 USD$ 34,900 Dana Point , CA

33' Endeavour Cutter 1984 $ 34,800 Slidell, LA

33' PRESIDENT Nassau 34 1983 USD$ 34,900 Waukegan, IL

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A belated welcome aboard from me too Johnno! Hope you find what you're looking for quickly.
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I should have also said that we are only interested in boats between LA and San Diego. We won't have the time to go shopping any further afield than that. Also, it needs to be the West Coast to cut down the travelling distance and coming from Cairns (latitude 16 degrees South) we don't function in temperatures below say 68F . Yes, I know!

There are some good California options in there though so we'll try and track them down. Thank you very much for your assistance.

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A belated welcome aboard from me too Johnno! Hope you find what you're looking for quickly.
Thanks Lighthouse. I travelled through South Africa in the seventies and worked as a steward on South African railways. Crossing the Pacific can't be harder than that!

Met my wife over that way. She's from Zimbabwe.
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I should have also said that we are only interested in boats between LA and San Diego.

There are some good California options in there though so we'll try and track them down.

Johnno
With a limited area in which to hunt down a boat that meets your criteria - a popular boat that has a good offshore reputation is the Islander - the one identified :-

36' Islander - Islander 36 1974 $ 34,900 San Diego, CA - this design and year is fairly common and although over 30 years old - still a very good cruising boat

The 36 has a strong Association with many members who can assist you in your search.

Visit their Website here.

The only caveat is to have the boat out of the water for an osmosis check during survey - money worth spending.

All the best - did your wife come from Bulawayo ?

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The best deals in this lower price range come via the papers and online listings, NOT yacht brokers, by the way. When you get close to showing up, check out the craigslist.org for San Diego, the Log online, Latitude 38, etc.

Then it just comes down to finding one with rigging that will make it, IMHO. You can make due with fit-finish problems, a "shy engine" or sketchy on the interior systems (refrig, pressure water, etc) but the rig has to make it the whole way!

We'll look forward with interest to your sailboat buying adventure when you arrive here
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Hello Johnno,

There are a couple of issues you may already be aware of - these relate to #1. the importation of a boat into Australia and #2. the prior advice of arrival of the boat to customs.

It might be useful to see Customs and the Dept that deals with the Marine Environment in Cairns - before you leave for the US.

Here is the Link with rules pertaining to the importation :- Import link

Here is the Link regarding prior advice of arrival to Customs :-

Prior advice

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With a limited area in which to hunt down a boat that meets your criteria - a popular boat that has a good offshore reputation is the Islander - the one identified :-

36' Islander - Islander 36 1974 $ 34,900 San Diego, CA - this design and year is fairly common and although over 30 years old - still a very good cruising boat

The 36 has a strong Association with many members who can assist you in your search.

Visit their Website here.

The only caveat is to have the boat out of the water for an osmosis check during survey - money worth spending.

All the best - did your wife come from Bulawayo ?

Regards

Richard
Thanks for that thumbs up on the Islander 36 Richard. Definitely sounds like an option if a sound one is available when we arrive. I'll get in touch with the Association.

Yes my wife (nee Mary Tuke) did live in Bulawayo for for most of her life in Zim, born in what used to be called Sinoia. She's been in Australia since 1976.
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Hello Johnno,

There are a couple of issues you may already be aware of - these relate to #1. the importation of a boat into Australia and #2. the prior advice of arrival of the boat to customs.

It might be useful to see Customs and the Dept that deals with the Marine Environment in Cairns - before you leave for the US.

Here is the Link with rules pertaining to the importation :- Import link

Here is the Link regarding prior advice of arrival to Customs :-

Prior advice

Richard
Yes we are going to visit Customs in Cairns this week. We allowed 15% in our budgeting for GST + import duty on the cost of the boat and the passage costs. We are going to ask them how they will assess the passage costs.
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