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Old 11-15-2015, 02:44 PM   #15
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Touchy..Jeez.
Yes, but not feely.

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I think you need to go sailing.
On this point you have my entire agreement.
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Old 11-15-2015, 02:54 PM   #16
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Here's a good deal on a 38' fibreglass yacht in Florida. Water tankage is a bit underwhelming but otherwise a great deal at $30k.

1984 C&C Fiberglass Landfall sailboat for sale in Florida
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:20 PM   #17
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Y'all are missing the point of this thread though :/ I need to know what boat builder/ brand names are good blue water boats. We're looking to sail all around not just coastal cruising. Also I'm still dying to know what others are doing to earn money while "continuously" living on a boat. If we have to make port somewhere for a while that's fine just don't want to have to move back on land to make enough cash to keep going.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:34 PM   #18
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Here's the thing: used yachts aren't like used cars. With a car you can just tell someone "go buy a Ford" and they can have a reasonable expectation of getting a consistent product.

With a yacht, I might say "go buy a Roberts or an Alden" but they vary considerably because both these guys were designers and the individual yacht might have been built by a boat yard (professional or otherwise) or by an individual in his back yard.

It comes down to the inspection when you find one you like the look of, and even with the exact same design the interior will often be non-standard due to the builder's preference, the first owner's tastes or a combination of these and whatever later owners have hacked at and modified.

Here's a real world example. I own two Hartley ferrocement yachts, and I have the standard interior layouts from the designer. None of the layouts matches the yachts I own. In fact one of these yachts was built as a ketch and the builder changed his mind halfway and finished it as a sloop, which left an unused concrete bridge right outside the companionway (entrance) that has to be climbed over to enter.

I'm not trying to make life hard for you, honest. If you were buying a brand new yacht the answer would be easy, but in the used market it isn't. As for what's suitable for blue water cruising, people have circumnavigated in boats as small as 12' long.

The best I can suggest is to find out what's around in the 38'-42' range in your area and send us a link to the advert. Together we can evaluate it against the needs of a blue water traveler.
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Hmm well dang I guess I'll just have to do a ton of looking to find just the right boat then :/ just wasn't sure if there were aspects of a boat that made it a "blue water" boat that I needed to be looking for.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:48 PM   #20
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As for working while cruising, many books on the subject cover chapters on this one point. Computer skills, floating surgeries, journalists, retirees (like me), forex traders and a million other types of people cruise the world while making a living.

The legalities and ethics of working in a foreign country "under the radar" also need to be taken into consideration.

You're a diesel mechanic, I would have thought the answer to be pretty obvious. It's a needed skill on the cruise circuit.
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Well I know the skills I have as a mechanic would be helpful I just wasn't sure if it would be enough to sustain a family of 4 for the most part. I have never freelanced my self out. Working for a company kinda hinders my idea of what's really out there private sector wise.
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Yes, there are aspects that make it a "blue water" boat. Most of that is in the outfitting though.

There are only a few types of yacht I would hesitate to sail around the world. One would be a plywood catamaran or trimaran designed and built in the 1960s. There are a lot that were really badly made in back yards. Another would be anything with water ballast, like a Macgregor 26.

As long as it has a solid keel and mast and keeps the water outside and the air inside, you're good to go.
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Supporting a family is a whole lot cheaper when you aren't paying rent. I live on $135 per week (excluding food) and that includes registration for two yachts, two vans (one in Australia and one in New Zealand) and a trailer, and rates on my house in NZ. My income is $400pw and I feel wealthy. It's just a different set of conditions. Rent kills us but we need it to be near work. In the end I was paying $180pw for a 12' x 20' room in a shared house, which is completely nuts.

Working for yourself ain't bad once you get used to it. The hardest bit is dealing face-to-face with people, they can be weird and argumentative and unreasonable at times. But the work is the same as ever, you just need to adapt a few extra skills.
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It might be easier if you have a look for some boats that you can afford and that you think you could live on, then ask to see if people think it is blue water suitable. That will then exclude the ones you don't like or can't afford. Yachtworld is a good place to start.

I met a mechanic living on a boat in Portugal. He got a fair bit of work but he had been in the same for quite a while so people got to know about him. That may be a problem if you are moving all the time. Perhaps cruise in the summer and stay put and work in the winter?
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Y'all are missing the point of this thread though :/ I need to know what boat builder/ brand names are good blue water boats. We're looking to sail all around not just coastal cruising. Also I'm still dying to know what others are doing to earn money while "continuously" living on a boat. If we have to make port somewhere for a while that's fine just don't want to have to move back on land to make enough cash to keep going.
Just so as you know we're still on your side, the standard answer for buyers in the USA is Island Packet 42, Caliber 40 LRC, Hylas 46, Tartan 3700, Valiant 42, Tayana 42.

All of these are well into six figures and there are a lot of less expensive choices.
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I wonder if the link I posted in #9 on this thread was working. I will repeat it as the site contains the most concise and well researched content dedicated to assisting sailors of all experience in their quest to buy a boat for offshore voyaging.

In addition there is a full breakdown of voyaging yachts by name and country along with a quick comment regarding their worth. I hope this link works this time.
Mahina Expedition - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising
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Both links seem to work fine Auzzee.
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In addition there is a full breakdown of voyaging yachts by name and country along with a quick comment regarding their worth. I hope this link works this time.
Mahina Expedition - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising
That is a very comprehensive and well written document.
After reading that it is then down to the OP's taste and preference.
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