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View Poll Results: Liferafts...Whats your status
Don't own one 16 21.92%
Have one, uncertified...Never taken a course 11 15.07%
Have one, uncertified...Taken a class 2 2.74%
Have one, certified...Never taken a class 21 28.77%
Have one, certified...Taken a class 23 31.51%
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:05 AM   #1
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Certification refers to the servicing of the life raft. If you don't know it's date, or have never had your life raft serviced then select unserviced.

A class refers to you having deployed and sat in the life raft (preferably while it was being serviced).
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:39 PM   #2
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A note for the life raft owners.

Most liferafts have a 1 or 2 year service schedule. Then you take it to the shop and drop it off to be serviced. A better plan is to hang around and deploy the raft at the service center. It's something they have to do anyway. Pull the cord, deploy it, then hop in it and find out where everything is. There's a lot of hiding places for the tons of equipment on board. It will probably have an inflatable floor which is used to isolate the occupants from the cold of the ocean. Pump the floor up a bit so that if you ever need to do it you'll know how.

Ask questions! Most service center repairmen are well qualified and knowledgeable. Many give classes on life raft use.

All of this is free as the raft needs to be deployed to be serviced. Many will be surprised at how long the trip line is and how much effort it takes to deploy. First time I tried it I thought my raft was broken.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:10 PM   #3
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Well done for initiating this thread. The information you give is VERY useful. I think we would all be surprised at how few ocean sailors know how this vital piece of equipment REALLY works. How many crew know all about it? What if the skipper/owner is incapacitated and the liferaft needs to be launched? Makes you think doesn't it?
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:42 PM   #4
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I'm looking to buy one...any recommendations?
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There a really good place in San Fran...a little up the road from you but well worth it.

SAL'S INFLATABLES

510-522-1824 510-522-1064

451 W. ATLANTIC #118 , ALAMEDA , CA , 94501

He's a life raft expert, teaches a life raft survival class, and will recommend something for you. Set it up so that you pick it up on a day he's willing to run you through another raft, of the same type, that he's servicing. Pretty sure you're going to be surprised at what you'll learn. Surprisingly he's also very affordable.
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Sal will be at the Oakland Boat Show as will Winslow and a few others. We went with Winslow, but so far haven't had to test it!
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Thanks Guys! I will do precisely that and report when I do.
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Thanks Guys! I will do precisely that and report when I do.
Have you bought one yet?
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From everything I have read. I am sailing my liferaft. I don't know how true that is, but when it comes time to leave for the Philippines. Y

From everything I have read. I am sailing my liferaft. I don't know how true that is, but when it comes time to leave for the Philippines. You can be assured that I will have one aboard.
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Bumping this thread up.
Good Idea,

Having Resuscitated the Topic - which Life Raft is on your list ?

New Technology changes things - every day.

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Having Resuscitated the Topic - which Life Raft is on your list ?

New Technology changes things - every day.

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Dunno. Not on the short list right now since the boat goes back in the water in June and we don't get the rigging on her 'til after then. We'll be doing shake-down work-ups locally for a few months with just the 12' Tinker Traveler (and lifeboat conversion) which is fine for the two of us.

When considering more people on board, we could either purchase another Tinker Traveler with lifeboat canopy and keep it packed up to be deployed as a life boat OR go for a 6 man liferaft. Either way, we'd be able to have up to 6 people "covered" so to speak. The proper deployment of the Tinker as a lifeboat includes a bag w/sailing kit, btw.

I believe if a system for abandoning a sinking boat is not logical, easy, reliable for the folks onboard, something can easily go awry. We will usually sail with just the two of us but plan to have 2 people additionally onboard for passage making. I prefer the idea of a single liferaft or lifeboat with a larger group onboard. There is much comfort in the idea of using a lifeboat (with associated ability to sail, row, etc) rather than drift in a life raft. While there are numerous liferafts available, I don't know of ANY lifeboats of a size to fit 6 people that would logically fit a small yacht. Do you know of such a boat?
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Dunno. Not on the short list right now since the boat goes back in the water in June, and I don't know of ANY lifeboats of a size to fit 6 people that would logically fit a small yacht. Do you know of such a boat?
True there are many life raft designs - it would be useful to examine how latest the technology of all disciplines is changing as to what goes into the raft eg :- hand operated water makers - communication to and from the raft - GPS positioning of the latest location of the raft. The design of the raft itself has undergone many significant changes in terms of providing stability and protection from the elements - the materials, both for the raft and the canopy.

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Here is one of the most expensive 6 person liferafts (around $5,000) :-

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Although LIfe Boats are off the Liferaft topic - Check this web site for latest British thinking on the subject :

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When I was flying in RCAF and Canadian Pacific Airlines a liferaft made sense. Constant contact, position, route and ETA know on shore so if liferaft is used, rescue was hours or a day or two away.

A cruising yacht has guarantee the liferaft will actually work as designed; until you pull the cord you do not know if it will inflate.

Cruising yacht offshore may not be able to alert rescue services so will spend days, weeks or months floating around in a life waiting for "Murphy" to smile on them while their floating home deteriorates under them.

For me, a good sized hard dinghy with watertight compartments filled with needed gear and supplies complete with small sail gives me a chance to save myself.

But perhaps I am out of date. I was born before WW2 and was taught self reliance. When I go out sailing I try to be as prepared for all eventualities as possible and to call for help as a last resort.

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