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Old 07-13-2010, 10:06 PM   #1
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Greetings from a first time user:

My girlfriend (6') and I (6'5") are looking at buying a bluewater capable cat, hopefully less then 200K, as we do expect to have to do refits. The obvious problem is headroom... are there any suggestions? Or, can anyone guide us to a source that indicates headroom in the various cats, as most ads on Yachtworld.com as well as manufactures sites neglect this critical (for us) element.

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Welcome aboard. "MMNETSEA" will log in shortly and I'm sure that he will be able to give you some direction. Good luck.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:29 AM   #3
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Avonbusse ,

"Greetings from a first time user:

My girlfriend (6') and I (6'5") are looking at buying a bluewater capable cat, hopefully less then 200K, as we do expect to have to do refits. The obvious problem is headroom... are there any suggestions? Or, can anyone guide us to a source that indicates headroom in the various cats, as most ads on Yachtworld.com as well as manufactures sites neglect this critical (for us) element.
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Hi, what have we got ?

#1 Bluewater capable catamaran

#2 <200K

#3 Needing 'Refits'

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and the critical specification :-

#4 Headroom to accommodate a 6'5" (1.956M) owner.

Therein lies the conundrum!! Because designers have been criticized for

low bridge decks (cause of slamming when heading into confused or rough seas) They have gradually raised the height between the deck and the sea - in doing so, the height in the saloon was also raised - the effect of doing that was to create more windage which in turn reduced performance; Result we now have catamarans with better bridge deck clearance and LESS headroom in the Saloon, but conversely MORE Head Room in the each of the hulls.

A number of the newer designs have the Galley up in the saloon - others use one section of a hull where the headroom can be as much 8ft.

One needs to visualize the amount of time that one will be standing in the saloon compared to other parts of the boat. In one's hours awake the place that is probably used more than any is the cockpit with its solid bimini, space and tons of head room.

So to return to your question " a source that indicates headroom in the various cats"

unfortunately 99% of sources are shy when it comes to revealing the 'Bridgedeck clearance' and when it comes to saloon headroom - not even considered.

Could I suggest that you contact a specialist multihull broker to put your question :-

Speak to Matthew Dunning (MatthewATmultihullcompany.com)

Regards and welcome again.

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Old 09-01-2010, 11:05 AM   #4
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Being 199 cm or 6'6" as you say, I can certainly sympathies. Finding a catamaran that I can stand up in and still afford is not easy. Personally I live in a boat with my family all year, and having one where I can only straigthen my back in the cockpit is not an option.

The only cat that I have ever been in that I felt fitted me was a Lagoon 440, but that is way out of my budget. The Lagoon 380 is a boat I can more or less stand up in, but the windows in cabin are so far down I end up bending my neck. The Fountaine Pajot Mahe has more headroom than many of its bigger siblings, but not enough for me, maybe for you.

I have been told that the Lagoon 400 is quite good for headroom and I will hopefully see it at the Oslo boatshow this week. It is over my budget, and yours too, but one can always dream ;-)

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Greetings from a first time user:

My girlfriend (6') and I (6'5") are looking at buying a bluewater capable cat, hopefully less then 200K, as we do expect to have to do refits. The obvious problem is headroom... are there any suggestions? Or, can anyone guide us to a source that indicates headroom in the various cats, as most ads on Yachtworld.com as well as manufactures sites neglect this critical (for us) element.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-05-2010, 04:42 PM   #5
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To get this sort of headroom you might consider a custom boat. With a budget of 200k plus refit you are in the range of a 36-40 custom boat US built. This budget won't buy much of a condomaran new so if that is your desire then used will be your only option.
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I have had a Lagoon 440 ofr the last 5 years and had a couple of people as tall as you on the boat...no real problems. Out of your budget perhaps, but perhaps you could get a marine mortgage to help?...worth it in the long run I think...if you can afford it...
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I have tip-toed into the multihull club to suggest "maybe you should consider a monohull?"

Even so, there are compromises. the original (long ago) owner of our boat was 6''5" tall and wanting a shallow draft, flush deck, bluewater boat he contracted with a naval architect to design a boat with adequate headroom in most of the boat and a 6' or less draft. The NA stated it had to be 54' long in order to have the right headroom and still be seaworthy. Thus, the boat was built about 10 to 15 ft longer than the owner actually wanted.

What mmnetsea mentions about design in post #3 above is right on. Where will you spend your time? We don't spend ANY time down in the hull (besides cooking) we actually are in the cockpit OR in our tiny little deck saloon/charthouse which is only 6' wide x 8' long and literally we live there. We even prefer the double-wide pilot berth that resides under one of the charthouse seats and sleep up there most times while anchored. We joke that we're on a 54' storage/container boat with our little living space plopped on top.

So, if you can find a comfy place to stand and cook (in one of the hulls) and a comfy, small, place to spend the remaining hours, you may be surprised by how pleasant life can be on a boat that you might not normally consider comfy for someone tall like you.

You should certainly stay within YOUR budget. Further, the bigger the cat, the more costly the berthing or cruising so that budget must be considered.

If you cannot find a way to do what you need in a cat...well...we monohull types are happy with our headroom

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Check out the Admiral 40 catamaran - the headroom in the saloon is so much that I commented that it needed to be lower!
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Check out the Admiral 40 catamaran - the headroom in the saloon is so much that I commented that it needed to be lower!
Hi, The Admiral yard certainly puts a lot of effort into producing quality catamarans - pity that the world market has not recovered enough for them to compete effectively in the mass production environment.
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I think Ted Hood was over 6 feet and a designer of sailboats. Maybe google his name in your search to see if any Hood designs come up. Just a thought. I bought my Bristol because I needed height also, just a thought!
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