Go Back   Cruiser Log World Cruising & Sailing Forums > Cruiser's Message Buoy > General Message Board
Cruiser Wiki

Join Cruiser Log Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-09-2013, 04:12 AM   #1
Ensign
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Home Port: Brattleboro
Posts: 4
Default Lite Cylinder Propane tank RECALL

Hey you guys. I'm sure you've seen the recall for the fiberglass Lite Cylinders.

Does anyone know more about this dubious claim of failure of product?

This is what the fire departments are getting:

The emergency order is based on an investigation of Lite Cylinder’s operations and production history that revealed probable violations and unsafe conditions and practices that PHMSA determined present an imminent hazard to the public safety. In effect, this action immediately orders the removal from service of more than 55,000 two-piece fully wrapped fiber composite cylinders. These cylinders are largely in liquefied petroleum gas service.

What the hell are "probable" violations? And what happened to innocent until proven guilty. Probable guilt is not guilt.

I own one of these things and it has served me well for three years on an almost daily basis. I depend on it. I built a special place for it in my boat. I need it. It can no longer be legally filled. Someone wanted this company out of business and the competitor, Trident, is carried by West Marine.

Insert evil organ music here.

It worked, Lite Cylinder was run into the ground. I am mad and don't know what to do about it.

Any thoughts?
Cynthia
s/v La Bonita
__________________

__________________
C.Shel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 10:20 AM   #2
Admiral
 
Auzzee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
Posts: 1,726
Default

Hi Cynthia, I understand your frustration and sympathise with your situation. However, a quick check of the internet shows that the manufacturers have a history of safety violations regarding their cylinders.

Given the available data, I sincerely doubt there is any conspiracy and, as such, I would be concerned to have one of these tanks on board my boat. Users are warned of imminent danger in the continued use of these cylinders.

I contend that the 'someone' who wanted the company 'out of business' is the certifying authority which has become frustrated by the manufacturer's either refusal, or inability to comply with the standards required to guarantee public safety.

I think it is better to find out now, rather than to come to the full realisation that something is wrong whilst flying to bits following a gas explosion aboard your boat.

I hope you get your money back and can find a good safe alternative without having to rearrange the current gas locker.

Best wishes.
__________________

__________________
"if at first you don't succeed....Redefine success"!


Auzzee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 02:07 PM   #3
Ensign
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Home Port: Brattleboro
Posts: 4
Default Conspiracy Theory

Hi Auzzee,

I would like to believe that companies play fair all the time but have seen first hand some less than stellar methods of getting ahead. I have had no problems with the tank and never saw anything in the news about the company being sloppy. Can you please send me a link to the "history of safety violations" you mention? I was not able to pick that up.

As it happens, the recall coincided with the last of the propane in the tank so I can turn in the empty tank to the fire dept or whomever will take it. Replacing it is "just money." (argh.) The company is out of business so reimbursement is unlikely.

It is not that uncommon for competitors to "conspire" to get the upper hand in their market. How subtle their tactics and how legal their loopholes determines whether any wrongdoing is at play. Conspiracy has become a word used to describe the crazy and paranoid. Sometimes it simply means someone is up to something, has an unfair advantage, and is getting away with it.

Thanks for checking in. Apropos of nothing, tomorrow I debut my first radio show about being a LiveAboard at KISL 88.7 Avalon. You can listen in live or later at kislavalon.com. It might amuse.

Fair Winds on the Air Waves, C
__________________
C.Shel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 05:06 PM   #4
Admiral
 
Auzzee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
Posts: 1,726
Default

It is not in our interests to reprint allegations of poor safety practices and fraud. However, there are numerous reports available which point to a history which appears less than best practice.

Take a peek at the following
http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/2993...gency_response

Cheers
__________________
"if at first you don't succeed....Redefine success"!


Auzzee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 11:29 PM   #5
Ensign
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Home Port: Brattleboro
Posts: 4
Default

Ok, I went to the DOT website and found a greater level of granularity about the incidents that are hinted at in the various notices. Should have thought of that before.

Onwards and forwards...
__________________
C.Shel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Recall Of Rocna Anchors Lighthouse General Cruising Forum 9 05-16-2012 04:18 PM
Yanmar 4 Cylinder 4jh2e Manual lloyd Engines | Propulsion | Generators 52 11-06-2010 11:27 AM
Switlik Life Raft Recall MMNETSEA Other Equipment 0 06-28-2008 01:34 AM
Viking Liferafts, safety recall JeanneP General Cruising Forum 0 01-09-2007 08:54 PM

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0