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Old 06-29-2012, 10:34 PM   #1
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Default How to Bypass the Gulf of Aden

Where there's a will, there is a way. Cruisers are incredibly resourceful. This forum is provided for the discussion of ways to avoid the piracy in and around the Gulf of Aden, the entrance to the Red Sea, and realistic alternatives to the passage through Gulf of Aden that cruising boats have taken from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea.

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Default An alternative to GOA and Red Sea Passage

Brenda,

Thank you for putting this together. Hopefully we can bring together a range of alternatives combined with stories from cruisers who have given this alternative passage a go.

For me, the search for an alternate route to the Mediterranean started with the tragic piracy of the American vessel S/V Quest and the Danish vessel S/V ING. The hijacking of these two vessels within months of each other and especially the killing of fellow Americans that we met during our travels drove home the reality of the dangers associated with the rampant piracy in the region. Unfortunately, we were already half way across the Pacific when these events took place. Having our dream of sailing through the Red Sea and the Suez vanish in the middle of our journey felt like someone stealing our ropes while we were climbing Mount Everest.

Obviously there are many alternatives to the Red Sea passage, however none of them get us to the prize associated with the dream of sailing our own vessel in the Mediterranean and visiting Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Greece, Italy, France, Spain, Morocco and many others. For many of us cruisers who arm-chaired our dream for many years from our offices following the travels of sailors like S/V Bumfuzzle and S/V Billabong, reaching the Med is a critical element in realizing the dream.

For many cruisers, we have worked hard to arrive in places like Australia, New Zealand and Langkawi only to be faced with the big question of “What now?” Do we sell our boat? Do we just forget the Med and sail around South Africa and onto Brazil? Or even worse, sail the Pacific Rim all the way back home! Or, do we find alternative methods of getting to the Med?

Many of our fellow cruisers are shipping their boats from Singapore to Turkey via Dockwise. This is a great alternative if you can afford it. Upon last checking, the quote for shipping our 45ft boat was just over $30,000US. Yesterday I even had a shipping quote from Dubai to Malta for $65,000US. I was quick to let that guy know he was firmly in left field.

Last week I discovered a trail blazing cruiser on S/V Chinook

http://www.chinookofcanada1.blogspot...1_archive.html

Noonsite: An Alternative to GOA and the Red Sea: Desert Sailing

who trucked his boat from Aqaba, Jordan to Dubai heading in the opposite direction of most of us Pacific Puddle Jumpers. His account of the desert passage via truck was uplifting to say the least! The obvious question was, “Can we get our boat trucked from Dubai to Aqaba?” And if we can, can it be done for a reasonable amount like it was for Chinook at $11,000US?

So, here we are…sitting in Australia trying to plan our future route and looking for alternatives. I've been collecting "Massive" amounts of information and will begin depositing it here as I get it to share with anyone else facing the same dilemma. Hopefully others will do the same!
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The following is from Nigel Grayston at Straight Line Cargo out of Dubai regarding trucking from Dubai to Aqaba, Jordan.

http://straightlinecw6e.tempwebpage.com/

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We actually specialise in moving boats of any kind. However, movements by truck have both customs and physical restrictions so there are some limits. In short, a full customs deposit of 5% of value has to be placed with UAE customs and reclaimed after departure from the GCC. Physically – there is an absolute height restriction of 5.5m and this of course includes yacht, cradle and low loader. There are no special trucks in the region for boat transportation and the low loaders available are usually 0.8-0.9m high. By all means send us the enquiry and we’ll do our best to come back to you with a workable rate.

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Ken, I'm so glad that you've found some good information about trucking from Dubai to Jordan.

When looking at the maps of the area, I immediately wonder about taking boats through to the Red Sea from Dubai rather than bypassing it entirely. I know that many cruisers dread that upwind sail through the Red Sea--yes, but I also know from friends who are divers that the diving in the Red Sea is amazing and not to be missed if possible. This is not a frivolous thought on my part but rather I'd hate to give up the opportunity to see the Red Sea as well. Example, Distance from Dubai to Jeddah is about 1900 km.

What thoughts?

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I've visited the UAE for two very hot and sultry summer weeks. I visited Oman at the time as well. David was in and out of the area on an aircraft carrier during the "first" Gulf War so often had some time in the UAE. David enjoyed diving off Oman and did a course for night diving there as I recall.
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Brenda,

Thank you for putting this together. Hopefully we can bring together a range of alternatives combined with stories from cruisers who have given this alternative passage a go.

For me, the search for an alternate route to the Mediterranean started with the tragic piracy of the American vessel S/V Quest and the Danish vessel S/V ING. The hijacking of these two vessels within months of each other and especially the killing of fellow Americans that we met during our travels drove home the reality of the dangers associated with the rampant piracy in the region. Unfortunately, we were already half way across the Pacific when these events took place. Having our dream of sailing through the Red Sea and the Suez vanish in the middle of our journey felt like someone stealing our ropes while we were climbing Mount Everest.

Obviously there are many alternatives to the Red Sea passage, however none of them get us to the prize associated with the dream of sailing our own vessel in the Mediterranean and visiting Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Greece, Italy, France, Spain, Morocco and many others. For many of us cruisers who arm-chaired our dream for many years from our offices following the travels of sailors like S/V Bumfuzzle and S/V Billabong, reaching the Med is a critical element in realizing the dream.

For many cruisers, we have worked hard to arrive in places like Australia, New Zealand and Langkawi only to be faced with the big question of “What now?” Do we sell our boat? Do we just forget the Med and sail around South Africa and onto Brazil? Or even worse, sail the Pacific Rim all the way back home! Or, do we find alternative methods of getting to the Med?

Many of our fellow cruisers are shipping their boats from Singapore to Turkey via Dockwise. This is a great alternative if you can afford it. Upon last checking, the quote for shipping our 45ft boat was just over $30,000US. Yesterday I even had a shipping quote from Dubai to Malta for $65,000US. I was quick to let that guy know he was firmly in left field.

Last week I discovered a trail blazing cruiser on S/V Chinook

The Wanderings of Chinook of Canada: RECENT UPDATES; present position & latest doings...: August 2011

Noonsite: An Alternative to GOA and the Red Sea: Desert Sailing

who trucked his boat from Aqaba, Jordan to Dubai heading in the opposite direction of most of us Pacific Puddle Jumpers. His account of the desert passage via truck was uplifting to say the least! The obvious question was, “Can we get our boat trucked from Dubai to Aqaba?” And if we can, can it be done for a reasonable amount like it was for Chinook at $11,000US?

So, here we are…sitting in Australia trying to plan our future route and looking for alternatives. I've been collecting "Massive" amounts of information and will begin depositing it here as I get it to share with anyone else facing the same dilemma. Hopefully others will do the same!
Gooday U-2 - Ken - in your info about 'pirate attacks' there seemed to be a greater number of 'flotilla's or convoys' c/w naval escorts giong across that area - I'm sure I read about at least 6 naval escorted offers being made. Couldn't you hook up with those ships & tag-along with them for an escorted trip - in safety - or do yachts - not travel fast enough to do that - I do wonder about getting a tow but that's a tad risky - me thinks.

By the by - a BIG THANKS for that site "Office of Naval Intelligence Weekly' - what a great fund of info - seems to be much more security available these days. Thanks again & ciao, james Good luck & safe travels, eh ! ! !
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This is the guy who gave the Dubai to Malta Quote for $65k...

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Gooday U-2 - Ken - in your info about 'pirate attacks' there seemed to be a greater number of 'flotilla's or convoys' c/w naval escorts giong across that area - I'm sure I read about at least 6 naval escorted offers being made. Couldn't you hook up with those ships & tag-along with them for an escorted trip - in safety - or do yachts - not travel fast enough to do that - I do wonder about getting a tow but that's a tad risky - me thinks.

By the by - a BIG THANKS for that site "Office of Naval Intelligence Weekly' - what a great fund of info - seems to be much more security available these days. Thanks again & ciao, james Good luck & safe travels, eh ! ! !

The word from the naval coalition managing the pirates of GOS and Red Sea is that private sailing vess
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Gooday U-2 - Ken - in your info about 'pirate attacks' there seemed to be a greater number of 'flotilla's or convoys' c/w naval escorts giong across that area - I'm sure I read about at least 6 naval escorted offers being made. Couldn't you hook up with those ships & tag-along with them for an escorted trip - in safety - or do yachts - not travel fast enough to do that - I do wonder about getting a tow but that's a tad risky - me thinks.

By the by - a BIG THANKS for that site "Office of Naval Intelligence Weekly' - what a great fund of info - seems to be much more security available these days. Thanks again & ciao, james Good luck & safe travels, eh ! ! !
The word from the naval coalition managing the pirates of GOA and Red Sea is that private sailing vessels are warned not to attempt passage and that assistance in case of an emergency is not likely to arrive. Sailing vessels are too slow and freeboard too low to secure against piracy.

However, private armed guards are available for hire and pirates are known to retreat 100% of the time when fired upon...especially when rounds come near their outboards.
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Brenda,

Given the chance and cost of trucking, to get 90% of the way versus 50% of the way up the Red Sea no matter the diving, I'll take 90%.

Besides, most of the great diving is at the North end of the Red Sea..especially the Blue Hole.
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I'll be going from the Malacca Straits directly across to Africa, round the horn and then up the west coast and across to Brazil. The Med isn't even on the agenda at this stage.

Would love to see India but with those lunatics up near Somalia I'll be keeping well away.

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This is the guy who gave the Dubai to Malta Quote for $65k...
I wonder if this is just because it's going into Malta? I've heard other things being crazy costly via Malta....hummm...

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Given the chance and cost of trucking, to get 90% of the way versus 50% of the way up the Red Sea no matter the diving, I'll take 90%.

Besides, most of the great diving is at the North end of the Red Sea..especially the Blue Hole.
Would you retrace into the Red Sea to get to some of the diving spots on the North end? It seems that would be a worthwhile thing for you to do since diving is one of your hobbies and not everyone gets to make it to the Red Sea for sailing and diving...
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After calculating our height, cabin top to bottom of keel, our Nauticat 44 is sadly more than 5.5 meters high. So, it looks like sailing the desert is not in our future. We will keep looking for alternatives since we neither want to sail up the Red Sea or around South Africa.

I suppose one alternative would be to turn around and go east or ship the boat in that direction through Panama Canal, then sail across to the Med. Has anyone done any research on eastbound shipping and costs?
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