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Aug 25 2007, 12:15 PM
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Lieutenant ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 16-Feb 07 Member No.: 4,157 |
I thought it would be interesting to hear about the various methods used to mark anchor chain. I have seen a very effective method of having cable-ties every 10 meters - one for 10m. 2 for 20m, etc.
I also found this painting method http://www.yandina.com/AnchChain.htm How do you mark yours? |
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Aug 25 2007, 01:45 PM
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Moderator Group: Moderators Posts: 1,726 Joined: 16-Sep 05 From: Living in Spain from Sweden Member No.: 1,631 Boat: Storfidra Name: NAUSIKAA |
In the merchant navy we painted the joining shackles red and the adjacent chain links white. One white chain link each side of the red joining shackle represented 1 shackle (1 shackle = 15 fathoms). Two white painted links each side of the red joining shackle represented 2 shackles, three represented three shackles and so on.
From my time in the M.N., I was accustomed to this system so I adapted it to NAUSIKAA's needs. I paint a red link every five metres and, at the first I added a white extra link. At the second, that is to say at the 10 metre mark, I added two white links each side of the red marking. I also use a cable tie on each red link just in case the paint wears off completely. My longest length of chain is 50 metres. Aye // Stephen |
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Aug 25 2007, 02:43 PM
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Moderator Group: Moderators Posts: 3,020 Joined: 6-Oct 04 Member No.: 349 |
I used to use three different coloured strips of cloth tied at set intervals to indicate coded depths.
Richard |
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Aug 25 2007, 05:02 PM
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Lieutenant ![]() ![]() Group: Full Member Posts: 48 Joined: 17-Sep 04 From: Cruising the world. Member No.: 273 Boat: Catamaran Name: Gone Troppo |
Hi All,
Been there done that. Bought a chain counter and installed it on winch. Problem solved, now operate winch from helm position. All too easy. Happy Sailing. Stephen |
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Aug 25 2007, 11:51 PM
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Ensign ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 5-Feb 05 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 817 |
Use the method described by Manor. One orange tie at 10m, two at 20m....I also add a single yellow tie marking the intervening "five". The light colours are reflective and show up very well even in poor light. After three years colours are fading but still easy to read the code. 'Special' anchor ties that are more resilient to U.V., to abrasion and windlass pawls are supplied in UK by Coastline Technology (http://www.coastlinetechnology.com/markers.htm). Simple but effective and easily replaced. Cheers All, Ron
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Aug 26 2007, 02:23 AM
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Moderator Group: Moderators Posts: 3,020 Joined: 6-Oct 04 Member No.: 349 |
'Special' anchor ties that are more resilient to U.V., to abrasion and windlass pawls are supplied in UK by Coastline Technology (http://www.coastlinetechnology.com/markers.htm). Simple but effective and easily replaced. Cheers All, Ron Thanks Ron, Looked at Coastline's - at the price very expensive ! However, the idea prompts a thought :- Strong black and white cable ties are available here in S.E Asia all over the place at really affordable prices ! Using a similiar code to that mentioned in the above link - they should work! Richard |
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Aug 26 2007, 09:55 AM
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Ensign ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 5-Feb 05 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 817 |
MMNETSEA - I think you are correct, there could be many alternatives to the Coastline product. They are expensive in comparison to everyday cable ties (I got a free pack with a sailing magazine) yet do seem to be long lasting. My biggest concern in using ties was them work hardening, breaking on the windlass and the sharp stubs gashing hands when handling chain. I've not had a single 'Coastline' tie break but it's worth testing or being initially cautious with your "strong black and white" cable ties to ensure they remain supple and breakfree. Ron
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Aug 26 2007, 12:19 PM
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Moderator Group: Moderators Posts: 3,020 Joined: 6-Oct 04 Member No.: 349 |
MMNETSEA - I think you are correct, there could be many alternatives to the Coastline product. They are expensive in comparison to everyday cable ties (I got a free pack with a sailing magazine) yet do seem to be long lasting. My biggest concern in using ties was them work hardening, breaking on the windlass and the sharp stubs gashing hands when handling chain. I've not had a single 'Coastline' tie break but it's worth testing or being initially cautious with your "strong black and white" cable ties to ensure they remain supple and breakfree. Ron Ron , Your good points taken , what I will do is to round off the sidecutter cut with a sanding disk on my angle grinder. To speed up the experiment I will also tie some on a length of light line and drag them behind the pickup for a week. Also leave some out in the sun to see the effect. Richard |
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Aug 27 2007, 12:53 AM
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Ensign ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 5-Jan 05 From: Where the boat is :) Member No.: 672 |
colored cable ties, different colors at 60ft, 75 ft, 100 ft, then coded at 125ft,150 ft and every 50 ft after to 300. ties are still going strong after 4 yrs.
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Aug 27 2007, 03:42 AM
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Moderator Group: Moderators Posts: 3,020 Joined: 6-Oct 04 Member No.: 349 |
colored cable ties, different colors at 60ft, 75 ft, 100 ft, then coded at 125ft,150 ft and every 50 ft after to 300. ties are still going strong after 4 yrs. Hi Jon D , Where did you get the ties? Were they for the electrical market or marine ?? 4 years is good kit. Richard |
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Aug 28 2007, 03:02 PM
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Ensign ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 5-Jan 05 From: Where the boat is :) Member No.: 672 |
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Sep 14 2007, 09:43 PM
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Ensign ![]() Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 14-Sep 07 From: Mazatlan, Mexico Member No.: 5,484 |
Hi - A newbie here thought I'd put my suggestions into the hopper. Another in favor of the plastic wire ties
We have been using plastic wire ties for 25+ years. Have been very happy with the results. The markings we use are as follows: Small ties = 10' Large ties = 50' 10' - 1 small *** 30' - 3 small 50 - 1 large 70 - 1 large 2 small 100 - 2 large 120 - 2 large 2 small 150 - 3 large 200 - 4 large 250 - 5 large 290 - 6 large ***Since we have to flake due to the small anchor locker the 10' marker is used if I am having to steer in a blow and using the remote from the helm. Linda will either flash me with a light or yell informing me that we are at the 10'mark Wire ties have worked well in coral, rock and sand. We have never used colored markers because we never had them onboard before (Nice idea). The ties in the 10-70' marks have to be replaced as they get torn off. They easily pass through the windlass with no trouble. In addition we end for end the chain and it makes it very easy to just snip the old ones off and re-apply. Good luck and warm regards Chuck Jacaranda www.jacarandajourney.com |
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