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MMNETSEA 11-07-2008 05:47 AM

Verdict and sentence delivered :-

Here

Nausikaa 11-07-2008 07:18 AM

One down - just the Gulf of Aden pirates left to go!

I have my reservations about the death penalty in general but there seems to be absolutely no doubt about Deleon's culpability

Aye // Stephen

imagine2frolic 11-07-2008 12:33 PM

My thought is if you don't give them the death sentence. Then you have to promise to never let them on the street again. It is a different kind of death sentence.

Istioploos 11-07-2008 12:57 PM

I am opposed to to capital punishment but ...

Trim50 11-07-2008 03:57 PM

Wife and I talked about this at length and both agreed that they should take the guy out on a boat, tie him off to a length of chain, drop an anchor in the water at 4000 ft depth which is attached to say 500 ft of chain spooled-up on the deck of the boat. This way he will be sitting there watching the chain run-out for a couple minutes. And just as the final feet are about to yank him overboard, he will realize that the chain he is attached to is not attached to the anchor. This way he will experience the horror of the situation but will have to live the rest of his life in prison thinking about it.

JeanneP 11-07-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trim50 (Post 27487)
tie him off to a length of chain, drop an anchor in the water at 4000 ft depth which is attached to say 500 ft of chain ......just as the final feet are about to yank him overboard, he will realize that the chain he is attached to is not attached to the anchor. This way he will experience the horror of the situation but will have to live the rest of his life in prison thinking about it.

I like that, but we can be pretty sure that in our society it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

Trim50 11-07-2008 04:53 PM

Yes, ...unfortunately so. Lori finds this case very upsetting...especially since it happened so close by.

gslabbert5119 11-07-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trim50 (Post 27487)
Tie him off to a length of chain, drop an anchor in the into the water ...

People like this have little compassion so why show any compassion and I doubt these kinds of people would think about such stuff, but I may be incorrect.

I am for the death penalty but I think that it is too quick. For I would march the bastard into the death chamber setup 7 needles, 1 with a slow functioning lethal serum and then have him choose one of the syringes each day and have him experience the fear of death over and over each day for a week or until he selects the one that will kill him. This way he may just face a little of the fear that those poor folks experienced knowing that they were going to die.

Sorry but when you murder someone you give up your rights.

Plus that is a waste of a good anchor and chain ...

fusion40 11-07-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gslabbert5119 (Post 27491)
People like this have little compassion so why show any compassion and I doubt these kinds of people would think about such stuff, but I may be incorrect.

I am for the death penalty but I think that it is too quick. For I would march the bastard into the death chamber setup 7 needles, 1 with a slow functioning lethal serum and then have him choose one of the syringes each day and have him experience the fear of death over and over each day for a week or until he selects the one that will kill him. This way he may just face a little of the fear that those poor folks experienced knowing that they were going to die.

Sorry but when you murder someone you give up your rights.

Plus that is a waste of a good anchor and chain ...

There is NO excuse for taking human life, jail forever is a much harsher penalty than a quick death !

Trim50 11-07-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fusion40 (Post 27493)
There is NO excuse for taking human life, jail forever is a much harsher penalty than a quick death !

I agree completely...either an Arizona chain gang or Siberian labor camp...none of these California day spa pansy prisons.

I'd be willing to donate the chain and anchor for such a purpose.

Nausikaa 11-08-2008 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gslabbert5119 (Post 27491)
I am for the death penalty................

Sorry but when you murder someone you give up your rights.

Problem is that sometimes the wrong person is accused and found guilty. If the death penalty is then imposed there is no going back and no way the state can make ammends to the poor guy. Compensation paid for years spent wrongly imprissoned is never adequate but it is a whole lot better than an irreversable execution.

IMHO, it is better that 100 murderers are incarcerated for life than one innocent man is sentanced to death.

Aye // Stephen

Peter Owen 11-08-2008 11:32 AM

Maybe, just maybe, we should be offering those found guilty the ancient Greek option of drinking hemlock.

In these more sensitized times, of course, nitrogen narcosis would apparently be a pretty painless, dare I say, pleasant, way to go!

Maybe too painless for some but ....

.... see ya!

Nausikaa 11-08-2008 01:36 PM

I am certain that hemlock is available to those in prison who want it. The process of osmosis in prisons is far faster than in boats and so quantities of any drug known to science and a few which may not be seem to effortlessly pass through prison walls.

I don't think that the majority of murderers and rapists have the courage or the decency to take the "gentleman's" way out.

Aye // Stephen

imagine2frolic 11-08-2008 02:34 PM

COWARDS?,

These people are such cowards that work scares them. That's why they choose a predatory lifestyle. DEATH, or in one cell with an hour of excercise alone for the rest of your life. Problem with keeping them alive we as taxpayers carry the burden of supporting this POS.

One year to get a retrial. You come up with nothing new. A walk down the aisle to a tiled room, and fifty cents of lead to fix the problem.


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