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02-17-2009, 07:34 AM
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Hi ,im looking at a 14 m' steel boat with lifting keel, is a lifting keel can be a problem? im looking for a boat that will cross ocean in the future ,i know any boat can cross ocean but i like to do it with the right boat and leave gambling to casinos,no i do not know much and i dont even know how to sail yet,but if i find the right boat i will buy it and start from the end to the begining...and about crossing the ocean,,,for sure not alone and with people that will know what they doing,,,and its for the far future,but when the time comes i dont want to sale what boat i have and go search and buy a better boat ,so i figure just start with the right boat
have a great week ppl
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02-17-2009, 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miz
Hi ,im looking at a 14 m' steel boat with lifting keel, is a lifting keel can be a problem?
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Hello Miz,
Give us a little more info:-
What's the boats design ?
Does the keel lift vertically?
Does the keel pivot and lift?
How is the keel lifted?
What draft does the keel reduce when fully lifted?
Can the Boat be Beached when the keel is retracted?
How is antifouling applied to the keel's case and to that part of the keel that is always encased?
Richard
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02-17-2009, 08:18 AM
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Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Hi Richard
i have one answer to all the question,,, i do not know,,,
but at least i know what to ask now ...thank you,,i'll post the reply when i get it
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02-17-2009, 01:46 PM
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Admiral
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There are plenty of lifting keel boats that can take you safely anywhere in the world... generaly speaking a lifting keel isn't my preference (most are lightly built for intercoastal daysailing) but there are those out there meant for ocean voyaging. One of my friends has beatiful 50ft steel ketch with a swing lifting keel.. the boat itself is exceptionally heavily built and has I think a 4 foot draft with out the keel down, with keel i think it's probably close to 8... the catch is his is a custom... as will probably be most boats like this... so yes they are out there but I for one have never heard of a production boat that combines these qualties.
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02-17-2009, 08:52 PM
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I know someone with a wonderful (custom) boat w/lifting keel. However--he does state its a bit more challenging to sail in heavy weather than his previous boat which had a more traditional (cut-away full) keel. So much depends on the design of the particular boat and keel.
If you or your crew are not very experienced sailors, you may wish to keep away from innovative keel designs as they do sometimes take a little more finesse to work with in challanging conditions.
We'll look forward to hearing what kind of boat it is and what type of lifting keel it has.
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02-17-2009, 09:21 PM
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Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2009
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thats the info i have
its a MICHEL JOUBERT design
Keel type : Pivot lifting. Daft reduces to 1,20 m when the keel lifts. and 2,70
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02-17-2009, 09:28 PM
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Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Thats the boat
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07-26-2013, 12:11 AM
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Damien 45 swing keel
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Thats me boat
That green yacht the one your talking about is the one I bought back in 2009....she is fab and does every thing you want
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08-25-2013, 01:15 AM
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I believe what most of you are referring to as a "lifting keel" is in fact a centerboard. A true lifting keel rises vertically into the hull and is a very rare thing.
Centerboards, on the other hand swing aft up into the keel of the boat, not the hull and are absolutely fantastic for cruising, if they are in good condition. If not they are difficult and expensive to repair. So much so that many people do not bother; they just seal them up and forget them.
We use ours almost all the time, even at anchor; it dampens the rolling at anchor considerably.
Without going into a long lecture on the use of a centerboard, it should be kept in mind that a centerboard is NOT an all or nothing proposition; it can be used effectively at almost any depth to alter everything from balancing the helm to lessening leeway.
Good luck with that boat; it looks good from the pic.
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02-27-2014, 03:38 AM
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Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2007
Home Port: Amelia Island
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We took our centerboard off and replaced it with a long keel. The thing was waaay too heavy for a 22 meter boat
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