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03-22-2008, 01:10 AM
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What is this item of protection called in your part of the world ? I have forgotten !
Richard
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03-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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We're drawing a blank. Splash curtains?
I just did a quick search through many marine canvas providers, and in their photo galleries I didn't see a single example of one of these.
We had them on sv Watermelon when we first set out, and they were removed before we reached the Caribbean. I didn't like them, restricted my vision, didn't, IMO, keep us any drier, and created too much windage when we were at anchor.
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03-22-2008, 01:23 PM
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Weather cloth.
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03-22-2008, 03:06 PM
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Lee Cloth?
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03-22-2008, 04:38 PM
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I thought that a lee cloth was the retainer one attached to a saloon berth to keep one from falling out when that berth was to windward.
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03-22-2008, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanneP
I thought that a lee cloth was the retainer one attached to a saloon berth to keep one from falling out when that berth was to windward.
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You're right JeanneP.
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03-22-2008, 07:56 PM
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Bill had it right. It's a Weather Cloth.
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Originally Posted by Bill
Weather cloth.
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03-23-2008, 01:50 AM
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Hi Folks,
Thanks for your thoughts.
Having gone through the answers and done some more research :-
1. 'Weather Cloth' = not correct.
'Weather cloth' (Naut.), a long piece of canvas or tarpaulin
used to preserve the hammocks from injury by the weather
when stowed in the nettings.
Note :- Nettings (Naut.) formerly, nets for stowing hammocks; now, more often, wooden boxes or a trough on the rail, used for that purpose.
2. 'Lee Cloth' = not correct .
JeanneP correctly described the use of a 'Lee Cloth' as a cloth to keep you falling out of your bunk.
3. 'Splash Curtains' = not correct.
4. Spray Dodger = correct.
Usually a rectangular panel with eyelets along the top and sides - bent on to the aft port and starboard lifelines to protect the crew from spray. When not in use - rolled up to the top lifeline and tied off.
See :- http://www.yachtdodgers.com/pvc_yacht_dodgers.html
http://www.martexmarine.com/Dodgers.htm
http://www.yachtspraydodgers.com/dodgers.html
Jeanne, I found that in an anchorage in mild wind conditions my spray dodgers actually assisted in keeping the bow into the wind. Almost like a small riding sail.
Richard
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03-23-2008, 05:45 PM
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Words are used in different ways in differing places.
In the UK we know this as a Dodger.
In Oz they use the word Dodger to describe a Spray Hood.
Not sure what's used in USA or elsewhere!
JOHN
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03-23-2008, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MMNETSEA
Hi Folks,
Thanks for your thoughts.
Having gone through the answers and done some more research :-
1. 'Weather Cloth' = not correct.
Richard
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I'm sure this post was intended to be part of an informative discussion on nautical nomenclature, but there are better ways to do that than by gathering answers to your query and labeling them "not correct".
1. The question was, "What is this...called in your part of the world?" In my part of the world, it's a weather cloth.
2. If you go farther down the Google page where you found your single (and archaic) dictionary definition, you will find numerous references to this device as a weather cloth, with the occasional nod to "spray dodger" as an alternate name. Those using this nomenclature include Don Casey, Karen Lipe, Paul and Marya Butler, and Ferenc Mate.
I know that no offense was intended, nor is one taken. It just hit me wrong for a minute or two. And as Swagman points out, you don't have to cross many oceans before things change. Fair winds.
Bill
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03-23-2008, 09:49 PM
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Hi Bill,
I guess I could have put the answers in a different category to that which I used. Sorry about that !
The source of definitions (not in Google) but in Farlex's thefreedictionary. Also to be found in
"The Sailing Dictionary" by Joachim Schultz
I suppose much of our nautical terminology in use today has archaic origins - and of course the English language in daily use is littered with the idioms of our naval history.
True, depending where you are from may determine which name is applied. Possibly the most common difference is illustrated when defining that piece of equipment to keep the boom down :- Kicker vs. Vang
Being of Scottish origin and educated in Scotland - I probably instinctively favour the definition culled from the original source.
Keep me on a true course
Fair Winds
Richard
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03-23-2008, 11:48 PM
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I'm certainly no expert, but...
Call them what you wish - but be sure you can get them down in a hurry.
I made a nice set to go around the cockpit on my last boat with custom pockets to hold gloves, winch handles, sun glasses, magazines, etc. The first time the weather piped-up a solid bit of "spray" bent the stancions to which they were lashed!
Next time, I lashed them on with dental floss which allowed them to go with the flow when necessary.
Cost of materials for me to make = less than $20 each. Cost of new stancions = more than $100 each + new lifelines & terminals.
It proved to be an expensive learning curve for me. And I won't be making them for our new boat.
To Life!
Kirk
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03-23-2008, 11:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallivanters
Call them what you wish - but be sure you can get them down in a hurry.
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Kirk,
TRUE - don't forget to also remove the First Mate's Herb plants to a safer place. Or should I have said Erb plants ?
Richard
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