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12-19-2007, 10:28 AM
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Ragin Cajun,
a Darwin, Aussie registered steel Roberts Mauritius has just completed a 4 day haul out in Malaysia.
After all the horror stories of yachtie haulouts, i thought a good news one might help others.
The yard is in Batu Maung on the south eastern corner of Penang island.
The personnel were professional and knew their various trades. On site one has access to a canteen with local food at street prices, a store which carries everything one would need from paints and thinners on through to safety gear and anodes, travel lift, crane and two trolleyways, sandblasting, fibreglassing, painting, welding and engineering is all done on site. A driver goes to Georgetown to get additional supplies every day.
The bonus, Yosuf in the prop shop. He does shaft straightening and balancing, and propellor balancing and repitching on site.
Living aboard and working on own boat is allowed, and showers and toilets are available. Just a short walk over the hill are two chinese warungs for the evening feast.
I did all my own work, which was sanding and painting under the water. Yosuf did the repitching and balancing the 3 blade 19" prop. In and out in 4 days. Cooperation all the way from the yard. The price was very reasonable. I am a happy little camper!!!
Tony Beks sv Ragin Cajun.
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12-19-2007, 11:18 AM
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It is great to hear such "good news" stories about yards. You should add this to the relavent Wiki page.
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12-19-2007, 07:47 PM
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Hi Tony,
Good to hear it all went well for you. Good news tales are always heartening.
Best wishes
David.
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12-19-2007, 11:00 PM
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Hello Tony,
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The yard is in Batu Maung on the south eastern corner of Penang island.
The personnel were professional and knew their various trades. On site one has access to a canteen with local food at street prices, a store which carries everything one would need from paints and thinners on through to safety gear and anodes, travel lift, crane and two trolleyways, sandblasting, fibreglassing, painting, welding and engineering is all done on site. Quote
Thanks very much for the update - personal experience very valuable. Haven't had many yachts using the facility ( I guess because it is primarily used by fishing trawlers) .
Before we add it to the Cruiser Log WIKI - need to confirm a few points :-
1. The LAT/LONG :- 5º 16' 55.58" North x 100º 17' 26.78" East (entrance to slipway)
2. My data bank has this facility with a haulout on a slip way - no travel lift . Note :- if it has a travel lift what load is it rated for ? Also max. dimensions ?
If it is a haul out on a slip way what maximum draft yacht could it handle safely ? - most of the haul outs are for relatively shallow draft fishing boats - yacht with a 8ft narrow fin would probably drag it on the ground.
3. Cost of haulout ? cost per day on trolley ? Labour Cost ?
5. Sandblasting , if you know ? what grit are they using and where are they doing it ?
6. Did you get a fix on the the crane and its ability to lift a mast ? What Height ?
Thanks again Tony, I had forgotten about this very useful yard.
regards
Richard
PS I will see if I can find an aerial shot of the place.
Back again with a Chartlet - Looks like one would have to check the depth very carefully.
Here's a aerial shot of the facility - the rail lines are visible.
P.P.S> I seem to remember that the whole of the south corner of Penang was increased by reclamation - this is not shown on any charts that I have - therefore extreme caution may be required.
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""" A recent survey shows the entire Batu Maung mud flat to have been used as fill for the new reclamation which has moved the shore seaward up
to 1.2 kilometres! No chart shows the new Penang island coastline S of Penang Bridge, although it’s been as it now is since 1997. People drawing 1.4m left the SeaGate anchorage recently steering 175[ for the Rimau channel buoy. Never recorded less than
2.4m an hour after LW springs. "'
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12-20-2007, 08:13 AM
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Hi there,
From what i understand the yard has a travel lift that is rated to lift 70tonnes. Other max dimensions are 75ft(LOA) x 20ft( . And depth the yard will take is no more than 2.8meters draft.
Not sure about the lat/long for entrance to slipway but it shouldnt be hard to find. the lat/long i have is 5º 16.91'N x 100º 17.56'E
Sandblasting is done at the yard itself and i think if i remember correctly they can unstep mast around 17m in height. As Tony mentioned, they have carpentry workshop, fibreglass facilities, etc.
Hope useful.
Beers peeps!!!
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12-21-2007, 08:10 AM
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Thanks Spotty and Tony again,
I also got confirmation from Wendy at the Yard with some rates - Gulp ! Ouch !!
Here is the Yards email Address :- lbmsATpd.jaring.my
where they can supply details by PDF document.
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contact Mr Azman, mobile no : 6012-4289936
RATES FOR BOAT YARD FACILITIES
Travel Lift
Capacity : 70 tonne and Below 75 ft length Maximum : 6.1 m ( 20 ‘ )
Haul-out (two way)
: Monohull – RM20.00 per ft
Catamaran – RM30.00 per ft
Boat on slings (not stored)
For inspection only
: RM400.00 (for max. 2 hrs usage)
RM100.00 per hour (additional hour)
Freshwater pressure wash
For badly fouled bottom plus scrape :-
Monohull – RM2.00 per ft run
Catamaran – RM4.00 per ft run
Additional RM1.00 per ft
Boat stand
: RM50.00 per pc per usage
Cradle : RM300.00 per pc per usage
Crane hire (other than mast
stepping)
: RM200.00 per hour
Mast unstep/step
: RM350.00 per hour
Scaffolding : RM50.00 per set per month
Ladder : RM30.00 per usage
Forklift : RM100.00 per lift
(for single use only)
Electricity supply : RM5.00 per day
Freshwater supply : RM2.00 per day
Labour assistance
: RM50.00 per person per hour (non professional)
RM90.00 per person per hour (professional)
To provide Diver for boat
inspection only (non-professional)
: RM50.00 per inspection
Towing charges : RM100.00 within 1 nautical mile
Dry storage (opened)
: RM0.60 per ft per day
Weekly storage – 15% disc
Monthly storage – 25% disc
Note : Additional RM3.00 per day for multi hull
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For those of us not conversant with The Malaysian Ringgit here are some of the currency conversions as at 22 Dec 07.
1 malayasia Ringgit = 0.299124 US Dollars ( call it 30cents)
= 35 cents Australian
= 30 cents canadian
= 39 cents NZ
= 9.03 Thai Baht
= 2.1 S.African Rand
Example a 40ft monohull lift out (2ways) will cost in US dollars = 240 dollars
nb. The labour charges appear excessive eg an unskilled labourer for 8 hours = 400 RM = 120$ US !!! Extrapolate to a 26 day month = 10, 400 RM
The average monthly wage of unskilled workers in Malaysia's private sector is less than 450 RM
Richard
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12-23-2007, 07:50 AM
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Managed to finally extract a photo to prove the existence of the Travel Lift with a yacht in the slings.!!!
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01-02-2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MMNETSEA
Thanks Spotty and Tony again,
The average monthly wage of unskilled workers in Malaysia's private sector is less than 450 RM
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The amount for average monthly wage quoted, I think, is too low..Rental for a small house in Penang where the dock is is about RM 300.00. Penang is busy city and it's hard to imagine RM 450 a month to survive in a city like Penang.
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01-02-2008, 10:04 PM
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Hi Rizal,
First welcome to Cruiser Log , True, Rm 450 is very low - It was quoted as being the AVERAGE wage for unskilled workers in Malaysia. I agree that the cost of living in Penang will probably be higher than elsewhere in the country, therefore this figure may be inaccurate as far as Penang is concerned. I don't have the average wage paid to unskilled workers in the marine business in Penang.
What was of concern was the quoted figure of RM 10,400 per month of 26 days.
Where are you based ? Thanks again for your input.
regards
Richard
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01-03-2008, 02:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MMNETSEA
Hi Rizal,
First welcome to Cruiser Log , True, Rm 450 is very low - It was quoted as being the AVERAGE wage for unskilled workers in Malaysia. I agree that the cost of living in Penang will probably be higher than elsewhere in the country, therefore this figure may be inaccurate as far as Penang is concerned. I don't have the average wage paid to unskilled workers in the marine business in Penang.
What was of concern was the quoted figure of RM 10,400 per month of 26 days.
Where are you based ? Thanks again for your input.
regards
Richard
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RM 10,400 per month???
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01-03-2008, 03:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rizal
RM 10,400 per month???
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If you look at the quote Rates for Boatyard Facilities : "RM50.00 per person per hour (non professional)"
Then extrapolate this figure EG :- RM 50 x 8 hours x 26 days = RM 10,400
NB: for a Professional, RM 90 per person hour, this comes out at RM 18,720 per month of 26 days.
Richard
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01-03-2008, 05:14 AM
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Interesting....
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