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12-10-2008, 07:38 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I like this design best but I am not sure that the word "Virtual" is appropriate. We may not have a club house, a committee or club rules but even if the club is lacking in legal foundation we are none the less an affiliation in reality and not virtual.
IMHO. go for this design without the "V".
In true democratic tradition I will acquiesces for the majority decission and be proud to fly the burgee with or without the "V".
Aye // Stephen
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12-11-2008, 07:46 AM
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Rear Admiral
Join Date: Sep 2005
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If we've started again, then I'm not 100% on the design for reasons previously stated.
IMHO flags with letter on them remind me of commercial advertising. My idea of a flag or burgee is a design that can be recognised at a distance. I'd use words of letter to advertise a company - but not a yacht club.
But clearly several think this style with letter or words is best - and someone soon will say 'OK - so do we have to get these sewn up and stocked by someone and then we all send money to xxland and await delivery etc etc'.
Please just reconsider.
My suggestion (of just basing our flag on an already commonly used code flag with a simple modification) would have been cheaper - something a lot of sailors would appreciate.
Easier to implement - meaning more flags would be flown.
Easier to recognise at a distance - my eyes would struggle with letters on a burgee beyond 100 metres.
No financial investment or risk by Cruiser Log or a supplier as no one would need to stock them.
No distribution issues - a moving crsuier is hard to deliver even a burgee to - especially when overseas.
Faster to implement we could all fly one by tomorrow morning as opposed to sometime next year.
And the bonus (for me and perhaps other traditionalists) it would leave us with a real symbolised flag and not something that looks like it is advertising something........
I repeat this one last time in the hope it helps get what I prefer, but frankly whatever the end result I'd be prepared to fly the burgee 'Cruiser Log' decides is ours.
Cheers
JOHN
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12-11-2008, 08:03 AM
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Retired Mod
Join Date: Mar 2007
Home Port: Durban
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This is the one we will go with (double sided).
Attachment 727
Looks like really good quality (see pic of a sample above).
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My burgees are hand made by applique method from 200 denier Solarmax flag nylon. This means I hand cut the lettering with a thermal cutter which completely seals the nylon and prevents freying, then sew the lettering to the burgee with embroidery stitching all around the edges of the letters.
Triple stitched hem-lines, finished with solid brass grommets.
I am sewing with 200 denier solarmax flag and banner nylon, (uv treated) and I line double sided flags with tyvec to block the light coming thru.
You can order individually or in small groups.
I would like $35 each.
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As it is handled through an Ebay Store, payment is easily handled via PayPal, credit card, etc., - directly on the Ebay Store's webpage. This lady has been making burgees for 8 years.
So, do we still go with these quality burgees at $35.00 ? Will we have orders?
I say - do it, and do it properly!
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12-12-2008, 11:22 AM
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Rear Admiral
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 349
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You'll have one order from me.
JOHN
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12-12-2008, 11:31 AM
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Retired Mod
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Great John. I want to see the first photo of the first one on a boat.
She is busy making the first one today and will have them on her Ebay store over the weekend. I will post the URL here as soon as it is ready.
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12-15-2008, 09:19 AM
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Retired Mod
Join Date: Mar 2007
Home Port: Durban
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The Cruiser Log "Virtual" (Internet) Yacht Club
(No registration fees, no membership fees, no meetings, - be recognised world-wide)
Dress the boat and proudly fly the CruiserLog burgee!
* You can order individually or in numbers and pay by Paypal or Credit Card through the secure Ebay store.
* At dead cost price ex supplier. (In stock now)
* Excellent quality - made to last!
* Speedily despatched worldwide.
CLICK HERE for the Ebay Store's page.
Let's see these flying all around the world - WITH PRIDE.
I would love to see a photo of the first one flying on a cruising yacht please.
Note: This burgee is set on a standard 2nd substitute flag.
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My burgees are hand made by applique method from 200 denier Solarmax flag nylon. This means I hand cut the lettering with a thermal cutter which completely seals the nylon and prevents freying, then sew the lettering to the burgee with embroidery stitching all around the edges of the letters.
Triple stitched hem-lines, finished with solid brass grommets.
I am sewing with 200 denier solarmax flag and banner nylon, (uv treated) and I line double sided flags with tyvec to block the light coming thru.
You can order individually or in small groups.
I would like $35 each.
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Also, order a CruiserLog boat decal and member's shirt HERE while you're about it.
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12-20-2008, 08:31 AM
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Rear Admiral
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Hi Guys,
I'm confused. Thought the final version was YC not VYC as seen on ebay.
JOHN
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12-20-2008, 08:47 AM
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Retired Mod
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Hi John
It is VYC (Virtual Yacht Club) - as pic of actual flag above (now in stock & shipping).
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02-05-2009, 08:57 PM
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Retired Mod
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We are eagerly waiting to see a photo of our burgee on a boat!
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03-29-2009, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lighthouse
We are eagerly waiting to see a photo of our burgee on a boat!
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I am eagerly awaiting my arrival. I will post a photo as soon as I fit it to Blue Lady!
Cheers
Rob & Annette
S/V Blue Lady
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06-04-2009, 05:12 PM
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Rear Admiral
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Got mine only today but hope to have it flying this weekend and carry it with pride on the Round the Island Race on the 20 th June.
Here's my quandry - we fly a RYA and an OCC member burgee - and now the CLVYC.
So what goes on top?
Cheers
JOHN
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06-05-2009, 02:30 AM
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Admiral
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Hi John,
The usual protocol :- place higher in order of rank and higher in order of most to least represented.
So RYA on starboard hoist above OCC member burgee
and CLVYC burgee on Port hoist
Richard
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06-09-2009, 11:19 AM
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Rear Admiral
Join Date: Sep 2005
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My question was tongue in cheeek but protocal actually dictates country courtesy flag to starboard so all our club flags are run up port side.
Cheers
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06-10-2009, 10:37 AM
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Admiral
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Hello John,
The Original Question :-
"Got mine only today but hope to have it flying this weekend and carry it with pride on the Round the Island Race on the 20 th June.
Here's my quandry - we fly a RYA and an OCC member burgee - and now the CLVYC.
So what goes on top?"
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Originally Posted by Swagman
My question was tongue in cheeek but protocal actually dictates country courtesy flag to starboard so all our club flags are run up port side.
Cheers
JOHN
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In the original question there is no mention of "Country Courtesy Flag" Only 3 burgee type flags associating the skipper with an organisation, were part of the question.
However, if Swagman's port of registry is a British Port - and if the Round the Island race is to be in British waters - which I understand it shall be. Then, what flag will be hoisted starboard above all others?? Probably in the same order as given before. Because Swagman will fly the Red Duster off his aft flag pole. HOWEVER, in many races such as 'Round the Island Race 20 June 2009' in British waters - the very second that a British boat flying the Ensign, Red or Blue crosses the start line, it shall then be deemed to have have retired.
In this specific race the relevant authorities have ruled as per :-
4.5 Boats shall, while racing, wear from the backstay (or stern
if no backstay is fitted) the fleet flag and, below this, any
class identification flag assigned by the Island Sailing
Club. Fleet and class identification flag assignments are
shown in Table 1 on Page 8. Fleet flags are provided with
these instructions, except for the Sunsail Fleet who shall
provide and wear only their own class identification flag.
11. RETIREMENT
11.2 On retirement from the Race, boats are requested to
wear an ensign and to keep clear of boats that are still
racing.
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12-16-2009, 01:54 PM
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Ensign
Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lighthouse
We are eagerly waiting to see a photo of our burgee on a boat!
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GM
I'm still waiting to see the burgee flying too! hehe
Is the virtual yacht club recognized as a real YC?
We're looking for an inexpensive yacht club to join for cruisers.
We'd like to have the benefits of reduced rates and not have to
support a clubhouse with monthly dues since we're planning on
being away from our home port for at least 10 years.
Any suggestions?
Thank you and please post photos. : )
Kristin
S/V Vision
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12-16-2009, 03:03 PM
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Retired Mod
Join Date: Mar 2007
Home Port: Durban
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Originally Posted by Tacoma
Is the virtual yacht club recognized as a real YC?
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Hi Kristen. No not a registered club but, fly it anyway while away from home base and when visiting other clubs express surprise that they do not have reciprocity with CL. You can then say that you will suggest it to CL if they let you use their facilities.
He-He!
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12-16-2009, 05:20 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,098
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacoma
We're looking for an inexpensive yacht club to join for cruisers.
Kristin
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Musket Cove Yacht Club, Musket Cove, Fiji. From SV Watermelon's log:
" MUSKET COVE YACHT CLUB: perhaps one of the largest yet most exclusive Yacht Clubs in the Pacific – to be a Blue Water member you have to sail here from a Foreign Port. Membership fee is $1.00 for the Skipper (as they have already spent a fortune to get here) and $5.00 for crew who have worked hard to reach this special place – there is no easy way to be a Blue Water member of this Club. "
more, including rules for the Musket Cove Regatta at: Musket Cove Regatta
hehe
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