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Old 12-11-2014, 08:13 PM   #1
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Default geocoded file of Wiki articles?

hi all
Does any one know of a way to retrieve a geo-coded list of Wiki Articles and their urls in a file or web page? Meaning a list showing the lat and long for each article (as shown in in the infobox), if available?

squidd.io is a large user sourced repository of sailing destinations. It features an OpenCPN plugin that enables downloading and viewing marinas, anchorages etc. from an OpenCPN chart.

We would like to include a link to a Cruisers Wiki article directly on each of our destination pages (see example) , and would encourage users to signup for cruiserswiki and enter articles when they are not available for a destination. We think this would create a lot of traffic and add to our service.

Crazy idea?
Thank you for your input.

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Old 12-12-2014, 10:50 AM   #2
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There isn't such a way of retrieving the articles in that way but it would be possible to look at scripting something on the server end. The main problem would be that there are many coordinate links on some pages -- e.g. several of the island/island groups in Greece have pages that list a number of anchorages, each with its own lat/long.

I'm only just getting in to looking at some of the things on the server side of the wiki, but I'm a bit snowed under at the moment with other work. Give me a bit more time to look at this.

There's certainly nothing wrong with linking to cruisers wiki articles from other pages around the net.

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Old 12-12-2014, 10:22 PM   #3
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thank you for the quick reply. That would be awesome if you could develop such a script. Ideally, with articles that have multiple geo references, you could generate a row for each such reference, all pointing to the same article. There would be nothing wrong at all if multiple destinations on squidd.io all point to the same article. I totally understand you being busy right now, but would hugely appreciate if you could take a look at this at some point in the hopefully not too distant future! Happy sailing
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As it stands the idea would seem to have limited usability. A quick look at the site shows that it's focused on marinas, and many cruisers avoid these like the plague for cost reasons.

Take away the assumption that travellers are stopping at marinas and one has the problem of how to acquire the data, given that the internet will likely be unavailable in most other locations.

As a stand-alone program OpenCPN is very useful. Attempting to link it to internet services limits that functionality to a very small subset of users, unless the whole database is downloadable and can be updated as internet connectivity is available. And since the world is a large place, that database would rapidly become very unwieldy.
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:44 PM   #5
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thanks haiku. Actually, anchorages currently represent about 30% of the database, and it's the fastest growing component. For instance, we have just added about 300 anchorage, moorings and typhoon holes in the Philippines in the last couple of days, thanks to the contribution of a local cruiser.

You can download the whole world database in gpx format from the site and import it into OpenCPN but, as you say, that gets pretty unwieldy. Most users prefer to right click in OpenCPN and download the local sector(s) (about 5x5 degrees each). That corresponds to no more that a few tens of destinations, and the sector file is 40-5KBytes in average, so it works OK even with crummy cellular connection, or even a sat phone. Once downloaded, the destination info is cached locally and viewable in the WayPoint dialog of OpenCPN, so you don't need Internet connectivity for cruse planning purposes. We could think even about including some of the CruisersWiki data ( description,contact info ?) in the cached file, if that's useful.
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