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Old 02-14-2009, 08:54 PM   #21
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Hi Gavin & Richard,

You are wrong regarding the Leopard 40 being a Simonis design - both the Leopard 40 and Leopard 46 are Morelli & Melvin designs. With both of them a person accesses the engine from the stern - the 40 has a 29 Yanmar and the 46 has a 54 Yanmar. However, the earlier production used Volvo engines which gave endless problems with fuel starvation.

Simonis designed the older 38', 42', 43' 45' and 47' Leopards, which had a greatly lower bridgedeck.

Only about 6 Leopard 40's have been produced with the "owners layout" (3 cabin) for the charter market, with the first being delivered from the middle of 2008. This means that it will be many years before they become available on the open market. However, there should be a number of privately owned Leopard 40's available or coming onto the market soon.

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Hi Gavin & Richard,

Only about 6 Leopard 40's have been produced with the "owners layout" (3 cabin) for the charter market, with the first being delivered from the middle of 2008. This means that it will be many years before they become available on the open market. However, there should be a number of privately owned Leopard 40's available or coming onto the market soon.

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Thanks for the correction !

Please explain difference between "Owners Layout" (3 cabins?) vs "privately owned Leopard 40's".

Any idea as to numbers of privately owned ?

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Old 02-15-2009, 07:04 AM   #23
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Hi Richard,

I am back in Cape Town but leave next weekend on a private Leopard 40 delivery for Recife. It was launched just before Christmas and is private L40 hull 123. On my return I am scheduled to take another private L46 to Mahe.

The 3 cabin charter version is identical to the 3 cabin owners version with the exception of the electronics - the charter version has lower grade and minimal electronics and no watermaker, battery management etc.

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I am back in Cape Town but leave next weekend on a private Leopard 40 delivery for Recife. It was launched just before Christmas and is private L40 hull 123. On my return I am scheduled to take another private L46 to Mahe.

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When you get back for the Mahe trip - give me me a call :: at present best bet is East of Madagascar then north using the SE trades.

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Not trying to start a war, but the wife and I are still debating the merits of each of these yachts and will be buying one of the 2 next year for our Circumnavigation.

I am leaning towards the Lagoon and the wife wants the Leopard. Both are essentially the same size, the Leopard is longer and narrower and the Lagoon is shorter and wider . The Lagoon 38 has a shorter mast and less sail area 857 sq ft vs just over 1000 sq feet and the lagoon is lighter than the Leopard. When sailing the Leopard is much faster, but is that really that important for cruising?

Having never sailed a Cat in anger I really have no personal experience to compare the two so, any help suggestions or insights, particularly by folks who own these 2 yachts would be most appreciated.
Look at a new cat being built in Phuket Thailand. www.catamaransailingphuket.com based on and built out of Robin Chamberlain moulds. Same designer as the Paralax 11 and Corsair 3600 Catamarans. Australian design. There is to be a larger 12.4M ocean going version starting around June / July already partly built in Australia to be shipped to Phuket by container for final assembly there. These are custom cats and are epoxy not polyester resin cats. The Cabroilet version is due for launch in June July just as the 12.4 begins.
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