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minefield 07-15-2008 08:06 AM

I have been looking at Hunter boats and there classification, What dose A10 or A13 mean, I know cat. A is for off shore but it's the number I'm not sure of ???

Graham

edsailing 07-15-2008 11:54 AM

Hi Graham

A: OCEAN: Designed for extended voyages where conditions may exceed wind force 8 (Beaufort scale) and significant wave heights of 4 m and above and vessels largely self-sufficient.

From the Royal Ocean racing club website https://www.rorcrating.com/stix/STIXOwner070501.pdf

Quote:

STIX is the
STability IndeX derived by the International Standard for the stability and buoyancy of


boats, ISO 12217-2. STIX is calculated from the physical characteristics of each boat and is a number

generally in the range 5 to 50. In a similar manner to the SSSN system, a higher value suggests

greater seaworthiness. STIX is the product of a number of different safety/stability related features:

Length, Dynamic Stability, Inversion Recovery, Knockdown Recovery, Displacement Length, Beam

Displacement, Wind Moment, Downflooding, and Reserve Buoyancy.


I presume - but am not sure - that this is what the number refers to. Don't know how to evaluate the number though!

Anyone else?

JeanneP 07-15-2008 09:14 PM

I just learned about WIKI Answers!

A is ocean going, the number is max. number of passengers/people on board.

A/10 - Ocean going, 10 people

A/13 - Ocean going, 13 people.

https://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_CE_...s_for_sailboats

minefield 07-15-2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanneP (Post 23504)
I just learned about WIKI Answers!

A is ocean going, the number is max. number of passengers/people on board.

A/10 - Ocean going, 10 people

A/13 - Ocean going, 13 people.



https://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_t..._for_sailboats

Many thanks, Now it makes sence as the A10 was for there 46ft and A13 was there 49ft boat.

I have been comparing prices and what you get between Jeanneau, Benneteau and Hunter

WindQuest 07-16-2008 04:40 AM

I have seen on a number of boats that there will be different numbers against A, B and/or C. The max number only being certified at a lower category (B or C). Did seem to have some relationship to max number of possible berths for that type. Could have more people on board under B or C category conditions than actual berths on a boat which had fewer than the max number of berths actually available. May have something to do with the fact that I was always looking at the "owners" version with fewer cabins and more storage space.

edsailing 07-16-2008 08:09 AM

Ah, so simple and obvious.

A good point to remember, if you are buying, is that you can cram a lot of berths into a boat but that number of people could not possibly live in any comfort if you are sailing for any length of time.

JeanneP 07-16-2008 03:33 PM

With regard to maximum number of persons, I do not believe it is referring to the number of berths, but simply the maximum number of people who can be on board, even for a day sail.

This from a charter captain whose large catamaran was approved to carry up to 36 people, which he did for day sail charters in the Caribbean.

One of the frightening scenes last winter in the Florida keys were the number of boats that were dangerously overloaded with people including very small children out for the day or weekend. Many of these were chartered small boats. I sometimes think that the Coast Guard ignores these overloaded boats as a form of population control https://www.cruiserlog.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif


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