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Old 11-29-2009, 08:49 PM   #15
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I remember the story the JeanneP mentions of the sea-sick people who abandoned a perfectly good boat. It had made I big impression on me at the time.

Another similar story that I had read, in SAIL I believe, was of a brand new sail boat, with a crew consisting of her new owner and several of his friends. Soon after he bought her they were crossing the Atlantic but a day or two after they departed she started taking water. One of the crew suggested checking the through holes. The owner frantically looked for the boat manual because he did not know where they were! He gave up his search and broadcast a Mayday. That boat was also abandoned.

I too, like JeanneP, am amazed how ill prepared people start crossing oceans and how with the first difficulty abandon their ships.

Another story of not being prepared but not of an abandonment happened to a friend of mine, Nikos Vardikos. He took many sailing lessons, bought a used steel boat, a Joshua, and reconditioned her over 3 years. When he retired he set out to sail solo from Norfolk, Va to Greece. He did not know how to swim. Before his departure he had installed a wind vane but he had not tested it. After he left Norfolk he discovered that he did not know how to operate his wind vane, so he hand steered for 3 days until he saw another sailboat at a distance. He hail her and explained his predicament. As luck would have it that boat had an identical wind vane and over the VHF instructed my friend on how to rig it. Nikos after that happily sailed to Azores, past Gibraltar, and ended up, without any stops to the island of his birth, Samos, Greece. He did not stop on the way before he was not confident to dock his boat. He wrote a book on his experience. He learned fast and he did become a very competent sailor from whom I learned a lot. He cruised the Black Sea and we cruised together in the Aegean several times. He then went with his boat to Greenland and back to the US. Unfortunately he died and we did not realize our plans to sail his boat together back to the Aegean.

The point I want to make is that even without experience and with less than perfect planning a self reliant person perseveres, overcomes obstacles, and learns.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:31 AM   #16
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The point I want to make is that even without experience and with less than perfect planning a self reliant person perseveres, overcomes obstacles, and learns.
I love your story of your friend. He is the sort of person that I love as I am inspired by the way this sort of person lives life. Many times people don't have all they need when starting out--but those who are life's "learners" pick up and soar with the new experiences that come their way.

Thanks again for the story.
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Nikos Vardikos

I recognize this name and i dont know where from.
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CL covered this event shortly after the spade rudder broke off SV Megawat, a Hansa in 2005. Philip Watson gave me a load of pictures of the rudder stock (can't find them)

Here is the story first hand with some pictures of Megawat :- CLICK
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Guess, it won't be the last time that we have to read of an accident that leads to the abandoning of the boat in a hurry, but not because of acute danger. It has to do with a new "philosophy" of what sailing is about nowadays. A philosophy most of us here in the forum do not share.

The boat: A new, fast design, built to the highest CE-standards (high seas). It is the ultimate cruiser racer, high tech built, light in displacement. A boat, most of us wouldn't consider a real cruising boat.

The intention:*Once in a lifetime participating in the ARC, an all inclusive Rallye (some see it as a race) across the Atlantic, even for less experienced crews. No risks involved, as* everything is taken care of. The experience is passed on to the Organizers.

The crew: The owner or just the skipper has the plan to participate in the ARC, he organizes a crew, they come into Las Palmas just in time, they have a couple days to get to know each other and the boat (but not enough time to get to know the boat really well) and off they go! The flight back from San Lucia will be, let's say, 18 days later. Task accomplished!*

Everything has to fit this schedule. Reduced speed under shortened sails after a gear failure is not part of the plan. Others will help to take care of such mishaps: The rescue and the ship yards warranty, or, if nothing works out, the insurance...

I fear that every new all inclusive sailing event of still crossing another ocean is pushing this kind of ill prepared schedule-sailing.*

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It has to do with a new "philosophy" of what sailing is about nowadays. A philosophy most of us here in the forum do not share.

Everything has to fit this schedule. Reduced speed under shortened sails after a gear failure is not part of the plan. Others will help to take care of such mishaps: The rescue and the ship yards warranty, or, if nothing works out, the insurance...

I fear that every new all inclusive sailing event of still crossing another ocean is pushing this kind of ill prepared schedule-sailing.
(Lightbulb flashing ON) Uwe, I never thought of it that way. So skipper and crew expect that nothing will happen that could slow down their schedule. They bought non-refundable plane tickets because they're cheaper, and they are da***d if they're going to let something like a broken rudder mess up their plans. How pathetic.

You're right that the cruiser mentality isn't like that, even when one of them makes the mistake of saying that they'll be someplace on a specific date two months in the future.
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