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Old 11-17-2011, 03:37 AM   #1
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I am a student at Lehigh University currently working on developing a new type of boat stove that would be considerably safer than current stoves on the market. The fuel would also be cheaper.

The new stove is wax powered. It uses a new patented technology that allows wax to be burnt very efficiently and allows for temperatures and heat output at par with or better than alcohol. Because it requires this new technology for the wax to burn, it makes it near impossible for accidental fires as the wax must be in the stove for it to light and if it spills it will not stay lit. Wax is also very easy to store and cannot be spilled nor is it affected by water or moisture etc.

Some other key facts: It is capable of boiling water and the heat output is actually better than alcohol stoves. It is NOT a candle. It uses a patented process to burn the wax much more efficiently. If you can't take the survey please respond with answers to a few questions.

1. Do you currently own a stove?

2. Is safety an issue for you when it comes to stoves?

3. What type of boat and size do you have?

4. Does this new-wax powered stove interest you?

Thanks for your time. It is really appreciated.

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Old 11-17-2011, 11:12 AM   #2
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Welcome, Alexander.

I would say that for all cruising sailors - as distinguished from the recreational day-sailor - stoves are an important part of their boat's gear. However, I am confused (though that's not uncommon for me).

Stove. What do you mean by a stove? Is this a stove intended exclusively for heating the boat's interior? Or is it a cooking stove (galley stove).

Huge difference, and it needs to be clarified before I, or others, can really think about your questions.

Secondly, I do not see a link to a survey ("if you can't take the survey"). Have I missed something?

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Old 11-18-2011, 12:22 AM   #3
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It sounds like you have an interesting project. However, US boaters are mostly using propane stoves and don't like the idea of other fuels and by their use of propane you can infer what you wish about safety concerns. Internationally, diesel, propane, kerosene, alcohol all are available fuels. Alcohol is NOT your primary competition (that appears to be an assumption you're making).

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Who is sponsoring your survey/project? Is this a company sponsored project or yours alone? Did you come up with the idea? Or, a professor who is looking for alternative applications of a new technology/patent? It is always interesting to know who is wanting "surveys" to be performed.

I would be very interested in understanding the cost of operating a stove such as you're investigating. Cheaper fuel is always of interest

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Oh sorry, attached is the link to the survey. I appreciate your responses!

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In response to your questions:

The stove would be an addition to help boaters cook food (gallery stove).

Who is sponsoring your survey/project?

The product itself is invented by a local innovator named (Gatt-gen), but is a project lead by Lehigh University. The main objective for this project is to explore a solid plan and market for such a stove. In order to understand if boating is the best venture for such a project, we would need to ask real boats and obtain their input. Again, your responses are very helpful!
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Thank you for all of your input.

We have decided against proposing this product due the fact that with the current technology, fuel safety is really not a risk factor facing the recreational boating market. Since safety is the primary advantage we have for our fuel/product it was in our best interests to tell our sponsors that this venture would most likely be a failure.
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Currently I own a Stove.There is some safety issues when it comes to stove. You have to take care of fuel it burns and the heat.I have on 35ft boat.I have never heard about wax powered stove ,so would like to here more about it. How it works?How much it costs?
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Thank you for all of your input.

We have decided against proposing this product due the fact that with the current technology, fuel safety is really not a risk factor facing the recreational boating market. Since safety is the primary advantage we have for our fuel/product it was in our best interests to tell our sponsors that this venture would most likely be a failure.
Fuel safety is a risk factor. It always amazes me that boats are built with propane stoves "boom!"

Boaters seem to ignore that risk pretty good though.

If the fuel is not widely available, the stove cannot take off though. LPG is much safer than propane since LPG doesn't settle down into the bilge as propane does. LPG is not really available everywhere so LPG stoves aren't used. It might be the same with wax.
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