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Old 12-28-2006, 08:54 PM   #15
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It's cayenne pepper that's supposed to be the best additive. A small amount ground up extremely fine works very well.

I'm currently in NZ right now and needing to haul for bottom paint. The only paint available here is useless, growth begining as soon as you relaunch.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:12 PM   #16
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Hi Thanks for info,

good luck with your antifouling, one could have a very spicy hull if we were to mix up everything that has been mentioned on this page. Good luck

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It's cayenne pepper that's supposed to be the best additive. A small amount ground up extremely fine works very well.

I'm currently in NZ right now and needing to haul for bottom paint. The only paint available here is useless, growth begining as soon as you relaunch.
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:17 AM   #17
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Hi Auzzee, I heard my information before the internet was even thought of!! I guess it was about 40 years ago that I heard it from a man who used additives in his anti fouling and swore by it. I was anti fouling my yacht and an elderly fisherman was having a chat with me and mensioned that he used ground red peppers. I was too busy slapping on paint to really listen, had not the time to take the advise, and in time I had forgot.

I've searched the internet for any information and came up blank. Tried the universities and got very little feed back from inquiries except for one; it seems the thought there is that they want to preach what they already know and have closed minds to anything else. Especially where some time and therefore $$ is needed in reasearch.

So I opened up a thread here to see if anyone had information or experience. My tests on my tender will cost about $10A and a few hours --- it is the waiting for time to pass waiting for some result one way or the other that will be hard. Like watching paint dry!!!

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Old 12-29-2006, 08:55 AM   #18
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Hi Peter, watching paint dry can be a valuable therapeutic exercise as long as there is a cold beer somewhere close to hand. Cheers mate. David
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@Bedouin & Gallivaters

Any feedback yet on the curry powder? I'm very interested to hear!
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Likewise, I'm getting ready to haul-out in 4 weeks. It would be nice to hear some results.
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Has anyone been able to get feedback on this experiment? Did it ever actually take place?

I'm haul'n out on Friday to paint the bottom.
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i used TBT in Hempel with moderate results in ecuador, at 1oz per gallon of paint, the growth factor after 2 yrs sailing and 8 months static were terrible..Soooooo Ive since redone this and used a litre of the stuff in 20 litres paint on my most recent pull out. I now await the future. Il let you know
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Bedouin - where are you?

We're all waiting anxiously for news of this experiment.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:52 AM   #24
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Well finally I have results on the adding of a 50-50 mix of curry powder and mustard powder that I applied to one side of 'Camel Dung'; my tender. The other side was done with the same brand of anti fouling from the same can so there is no way that a different result can be claimed to anything but the adding of the powder. The result was VERY NOTICABLE. I've since hauled Bedouin out, one of the reasons was to anti foul, among a few other chores.

I have added a coffe mug of Curry powder(the hottest I could buy) and likewise of Mustard powder to a 10 litre pail of anti fouling. Cost was under $15A for the powders. The paint required about the usuall time of mixing but some of the powder was 'lumpy' and needed to be reduced to its powder form before adding to the anti fouling. Application was by roller with a first coat of straight anti fouling of a different brand then three heavy coats with the 'added to' anti fouling and an extra to pressure areas; bow area, stern, rudder, etc. I did apply primer first and am happy with the result so far in as much as the anti fouling changed colour when put back into the water as it is supposed to do. Bedouin has only been back in the water about 4 weeks but a dive over the side showed a very clean hull in an area that does have a reputation for perriwinkles.

Anyone wanting more info can email me direct (bedouin AT hotkey.net.au) Was it worth spending the $15; well the $15 is a grain of sand on the beach when there is over $500 worth of anti fouling on.

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I am also very interested in your results. I have heard that you can add copper powder to the paint to increase the antifouling properties. Anyone had experience with this?

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Old 08-04-2007, 08:09 PM   #26
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A buddy put cayenne peppers in his International TBT bottom paint (the ugly pink color one) eight to ten years ago and the bottom still looks good. This is in the tropics and the boat hasn't budged off the mooring more then once over that time. I don't recall him ever mentioning touching the bottom for a scrub and certainly never saw him in the water messing with it. Nine coats of paint is what I recall him saying he put on. No idea what his pepper ratio was, but he swore by it.

We used the exact same paint without the peppers in 2005, and it does work good, but I had to hand-wipe a little slime off now and then.

You could find TBT in Kuching, Malaysia, Borneo in 2005/2006.

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I feel that R & D laboratories must be aware of the claims made by cruising sailors and would be quick to test urban legends, especially if the 'improved' brew requires only the addition of a readily available organic substance to render it substantially more potent.

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The R and D labs have done the work. You boaters are no differant then the aero space folks. One guy with a small plane can not GET the good paints that are needed for a plane, BUT the large jumbo jets seem to be able to fly more hours and at speeds 3 times as fast and the paint lasts 5 times as long.

I own a recent USAF C-21A (Lear jet 35A). It is a nice jet. I am not bragging, but I like it and am very proud. To paint that plane with normal paint cost me 7 grand. To get a boot leg paint job cost me 21k. Guess what paint my plane has on it. That 21k gives me the best of the best. The space shuttle dosn't even have this quality of paint YET! It will.

If the 500 ton boats can get it, then you can get it. You just have to open up that dusty pocket book and get it. Heck, I am sure for the right price some can walk off and onto your boat.

Some times you have to get down to the low levels of life to get the best stuff. When we installed the by pass oil system on this boat. We were told how dumb it is and such.

The funny thing. My plane with million dollar engines go 500 hours with out a oil chage with such sump type filters.

My trucks all have them and DO NOT GET OIL CHANGES. Yet, these boat folks that seem to know it all. HAVE NO CLUE. When I told the guys at Cat that I will not be changing the oil in my Boat they were kinda shocked. ONCE I POINTED OUT it is their own system they would be installing. They were still kinda shcoked.

You boat folks get screwed. On paint, lube and maintance. I keep my oil guy very close. I have him on speed dial. I would think you may want to keep you paint guy close.

If any one needs good oil. Let me know. This guy is good. He tells it like it is. He is with a company that was making lubricants BEFORE petrolium was discovered.
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Also do not knock somthing as simple as adding pepper spice to some paint. Just because it sounds simple and easy, DOSN'T mean it will not work.

When we got this boat we were told it was only getting 1.8 miles per gallon. After six hundred bucks she dose fine at 2.6 miles per gallon wide open. Both 3208 cats running hard.

I am supprised many sail boaters have not adapted to air tabs off of planes. I mean this would seem like a simple must have item on a sail boat. They are put on jets for a reason. The same reason sail boats should have them.
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