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03-19-2013, 02:31 AM
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Admiral
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
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Lokata 7 RDF
It's amazing what you find. I have just purchased a working Lokata 7 radio direction finder and hand held compass. I whacked some batteries into it and the little screen on the front displays digital information, from what I imagine are marine beacons which, since the advent of GPS are probably no longer used.
I will use it as a hand bearing compass but wonder if anyone has one of these devices or if anyone has a manual that I can aquire.
Cheers
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03-20-2013, 11:35 AM
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Athene of Lymington
Join Date: Jun 2009
Home Port: Lymington
Vessel Name: Athene of Lymington
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Blast from the past
Not that I've looked lately, but I think I've still got mine on 'Athene of Lymington' (can't look right now 'cos she's sitting on the concrete in Preveza, Greece). Brings back memories of navigating 'on the null' rather like the 'Neckerbein' used by the Nazi bombers in WWII. Not that I always hit the target, of course, as my crew can attest.
The marine stations are long gone, but as far as I know the aero beacons used for aircraft navigation are still broadcasting. You just need to know the frequency, tune the Lokata 7 to it, then swing from side to side and wait for the null, which gives you the bearing (I assume you have the plug-in headphones as well). You obviously need at least three bearings to give a reasonably accurate fix, which may be the problem these days.
Anyway, if that doesn't work you can always go back to the cross staff ...
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03-24-2013, 08:48 PM
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Home Port: Cheyenne, WY
Vessel Name: CAREFREE
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Auzzee, As a retired airline pilot, I can inform you that most of the aero NDB's (non directional beacons) are being decommissioned as a cost saving measure, since they are no longer necessary for navigation. I would suggest trying to use commercial AM broadcast stations as they are much more powerful and still available. Just an aside, I have never used an RDF on a sailboat, but understand that they have to be calibrated for the rigging effect. Any advice there? Cheers, gts1544
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01-01-2017, 11:42 AM
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Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2017
Home Port: Richards Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auzzee
It's amazing what you find. I have just purchased a working Lokata 7 radio direction finder and hand held compass. I whacked some batteries into it and the little screen on the front displays digital information, from what I imagine are marine beacons which, since the advent of GPS are probably no longer used.
I will use it as a hand bearing compass but wonder if anyone has one of these devices or if anyone has a manual that I can aquire.
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Hello Auzzee. Well, tour post is 2005 and you may be with Davie Jones. In the event you still breathe good old carbonmonoxide I wish to say this. I picked up a Lokata 7 from a friend and I have no idea how it works. Batteries in it gives digital readings about beacons etc. Were you able to get a manual. Who made these things, sure we can get a manual somewhere.
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01-01-2017, 06:27 PM
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Home Port: Cheyenne, WY
Vessel Name: CAREFREE
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Lakota 7 RDF
Gents, I don't know anything about said unit, but as a retired airline pilot of nearly 40 years, I do know something about the use of radio direction finding.
First, you need to tune to the frequency of a radio station (LF or AM) with a known charted location. As stated in an earlier post, which I just noticed, most of the aero NDB stations have been decommissioned so AM is probably your best choice. I have navigated many a mile with my ADF tuned to a powerful commercial AM station.
Second, you rotate the antenna (or the radio, if the antenna is fixed) to obtain the NULL (weakest signal) as that is much more precise than the strongest signal. There will be two null positions 180 degrees apart so it helps to know the rough direction to the selected station. The null occurs when the antenna is perpendicular to the line of sight to the station.
Third, resolve that direction into a true / magnetic / relative bearing (depending on your use) to the station. Be aware that a ship's magnetic influence (metal / sailboat rigging / etc.) can affect the accuracy of the bearing so it is helpful to have your unit compensated for the location where it is going to be used. Hope this helps!
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12-10-2018, 04:06 PM
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Ensign
Join Date: Dec 2018
Home Port: Brodick
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Lokata 7
I've just sold one of my cruisers and on beavering through the lockers before handing on I found a Lokata 7 which I'd forgotten all about! Haven't used it for years but it certainly worked when the old maritime beacons were running (they're not now and neither are the aircraft ones). I have not tried using AM radio stations as a source but the unit fires up and it looks as though it's just come out of the box (which it has as it was still in the original box!)The headphones and the instruction manual are still with it so if any 'oldtech' enthusiast is after one of these get in touch!
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12-10-2018, 07:16 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
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This Wiki article gives all the guff on these old tech devices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokata_Company
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11-30-2020, 05:01 PM
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Ensign
Join Date: Nov 2020
Home Port: Boston
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Older posts now, but did you ever come up with a manual for the Lokata 7? I have the same unit and am also looking for a manual!
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12-02-2020, 05:03 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Jan 2005
Home Port: Darwin
Vessel Name: Sandettie
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I did manage to get hold of a Lokata 7 manual from, of all places, eBay in the US. The manual is with the machine on the boat in Mexico which is a little too far for me to duck out to copy it.
It took me some long time to get the manual and was a matter of just keeping on looking. Of course, the Lokata is nowadays of less practical use than either a horse whip or sextant, and while both of those are still good and worthwhile things if one has a horse or takes a lightning strike and fries the electronics, the Lokata, sadly, is pretty much useless. Indeed, an old 70s or 80 Panasonic pocket radio would be of more use as a RDF.
Still, its a nice thing to have and I wish you well in your quest for a manual.
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07-22-2022, 07:44 PM
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Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2022
Home Port: Los Angeles
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Lokata 7 Availabel along with Operator's Handbook
Hello,
I happened to see the post. I inherited one from my Father-in-law and looking to thin our garage. Let me know if anyone is interested.
It's in excellent condition.
Cheers,
Joe
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09-17-2022, 01:24 AM
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Ensign
Join Date: Aug 2014
Home Port: New Bern, NC
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I have on as well. It still works. In my backyard in Kingsport, TN I can clearly hear the - .-. TR of Bristol / Tri-Cities on 299.0. It bears 060M. https://www.dxinfocentre.com/ndb.htm is a list of US beacons still operating dated 2022-06-13.
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