Go Back   Cruiser Log World Cruising & Sailing Forums > Cruising Forums > The Bosun's Locker > Repairs & Maintenance
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login

Join Cruiser Log Today

Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-10-2009, 08:26 PM   #1
atavist's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2007
Vessel Name: Persevate
Posts: 548
Send a message via Yahoo to atavist

Ok so this isn't really about repairs or mainentance but probably fits best here...

I have a pearson 365, which has what I would call a moderate fin keel. It's structural and when you set her down on the hard you do set her on here keel so lots of strength there. The hull is in fact 3 inches thick solid glass in front of and immediately around the keel... she only has a 4.5ft draft so I can get in most places but as many know I'm always looking for a way to moore for free.... I find myself all too often looking at the charts going "oh if there was only one more foot of water there at low tide"... but if there was it probably would be a mooring field... on the other hand if I had bilge keels I could just go in and let her set down at low tide....

I know I've seen discussion on this before but I couldn't find the thread so I thought I'd bring it up again... any thoughts on adding bilge keels to a structurally keeled mono? here's a picture of my boat on the hard in an old marine rail car and of a Barbican which is something along the lines of what I'd like to add (just the bilge keels obviously).

I'm planning to haul out for a pretty extensive refit next year and am thinking of potentially adding this to the list.... I would of course talk to and get the assistance of a marine engineer to do this, but any thoughts/ideas welcome.
Attached Thumbnails
enchiridion.jpg   bilge_keels.jpg  

The world turns aside to let any man pass who knows where he is going. (Epictetus 55 - 135 AD)

"To see new things, and live day to day, is better than wine or poppy, and fitter for a man." (Theseus)
atavist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2009, 01:07 AM   #2
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,067

Hi There,

If you go to Aug 14 - a topic was opened on Careening HERE

No doubt, your boat , if it is similar to the boat in the second picture could be Careened on a suitable beach or ground, tied vertically to pilings or some other strong structure. You could easily have 4 supporting legs made up, if you intend to Carreen often in places without existing structures to tie onto.

The technique needs planning :- Visit the careening area by dinghy, test the hardness of the beach or ground, Check the tide tables carefully - twice! Ask locals for suitability, Check weather forecasts.

The boat in the first picture is in a Shipping Cradle - these are made to tranship boats by flat bed trucks, trains and ships.

Bilge keelers are very common in Europe, many can been seen drying out every day for months on end - especially during winter.

It would not be desirable to add 2 additional keels to the Pearson - It would be a major boat yard undertaking, probably involving the removal of saloon and cabin soles to reinforce the internal frames and stringers. Also the additional drag provided by the bilge keels would certainly slow the boat down. A removable leg brace system is simple and inexpensive.

Click image for larger version

Name:	yacht_legs.jpg
Views:	62
Size:	71.7 KB
ID:	1106

MMNETSEA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2009, 02:56 AM   #3
JeanneP's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,098

It seems to me that you would compromise the sailing ability and structure of your Pearson, and spend more money than it would cost you to pay for the occasional mooring and/or dinghy landing for the next 5 or ten years.

If you want a bilge keeler, I think that you'd be better off buying one. You will have a boat that was designed for the keels and you won't make a salable Pearson into an oddity that most people would shy away from.

Just MHO.

In 1986 we went cruising for a few years. After 20 years and 50+ countries and several oceans, we are STILL "cruising for a few years".

MV WATERMELON (New) | Cruiser's Dictionary, free ebook

= Cruiser's Dictionary, North America,
JeanneP is offline   Reply With Quote


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cleaning The Bilge Seafarer Repairs & Maintenance 8 04-04-2011 03:21 AM
Bilge Pump And Setup danblu Other Equipment 4 08-19-2010 03:48 AM
Keels Keels And More Keels Dasnowz General Cruising Forum 7 04-25-2007 03:31 PM
Adding Another Bilge Pump Gallivanters General Cruising Forum 6 04-23-2006 01:36 AM
Porta Potty and Bilge Pump (newbie to this) LaurenSC General Cruising Forum 3 06-27-2005 07:17 PM

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:58 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0